it want to start with david archibald. >> guest: this is a fascinating book about natural resources. it's a book about energy but it's also a book about the haves and have-nots. i don't mean the individuals within the country, i mean countries and even continents. the haves and have-nots and this is very interesting sort of megatrends book about what happens as we are entering a gop reed of scarcity. scarcer resources, harsher climate, energy battles and what that means for various countries and various continents. his warning is that america really needs to rethink our whole energy policy and natural resource policy and even our food strategy as we enter this new period because while we are certainly the biggest of the first world countries there is actually risk that we could become a third world country if we don't marshal our resources in a more strategic way. >> host: from your description it doesn't sound like what we would expect from a conservative author. >> guest: you know it's very interesting, it is a little bit off the beaten track for us but it's still very conservative

david archibald, author of "twilight of abundance" joins us now to explain.ell us, so we're headed into a long-term cooling period. why? >> the second half of the 20th century, the sun was more active than it had been in the previous 8,000 years. we had a gentle and holy beneficial warming as a result of that. now the sun is going to sleep, so to speak, and we've got a 20 to 30-year cooling period who will bottom out 20 to 35. >> what are the effective changes that we'll see, people watching right now? >> here in the middle latitudes you'll lose two growing weeks and wind up climate 300 miles north of where you live now. >> that will affect growing and food prices, right? >> yes, food production will be quite difficult. >> tell us about how government has completely missed the ball on this and what should they be looking for? >> well, there's a large push towards global warming and regulation. carbon taxes, that's completely unnecessary and holy destructive of course. there should be some people -- >> government is so focused warming, it could drive the price