"the (honest) truth about dishonesty" how we lie to everyone - especilly ourselves" how do you define dishonesty? >> there are lots of ways. but for the purpose of the experiment we give people a a task we give them a sheets of paper and say go ahead you have five minutes to solve as many as you can and i will pay $1 per question. at the end of the five minutes please stop put your pencils down and count how many you got correct now take a sheet of paper go to the back of their room and a shred it. then come to the front and we will pay you. if they say six problems be paid $6 per cohousing but we played with the shredder it shreds the science but the main body is in tact so it vibrates handshakes you feel it is shredded but it is not. we can find out how many questions they've really a user they said for but the switch is due to a ton of people in than to recall chicha a little bit. >> host: does everybody cheats? >> around 67% chief you could push it up or down but the people who don't teach her the same people of retired. in each experiment we don't know if it is the same people ov

his most recent book "the (honest) truth about dishonesty" how we lie to everyone - especilly ourselves." >> guest: my pleasure >> host: joining us now is is professor bonilla-silva what duty chad duke university? ensure the chair the sociology department in your most recent book "racism without racists" for racial -- what does that mean? >> what i try to redress in the book is the idea it goes beyond the original use of those people that we need to understand and one way or another with the new dominant prejudice out there called the blind prejudice with new ideas tear defend their contemporary vision. >> host: can you give an example? >> guest: people go crazy to say things they broadly believe like of buffer that allows it peaked as that becomes an excuse speaker is you have to go back to the disclaimer. i also articulates it is called an abstract liberalism. if i want to oppose what we have enacted i don't and if i send for equal opportunity because everybody is diverse. that statement looking for the traditional things like the edward but i contend it is abstract because of a sibli