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. >>> bart gelman andhe >>> bart gellman won a pulitzer prize for reporting on n.s.a. spying and some of it focused on edward snowden involved in a bizarre spectacle calling into a russian tv show and why the -- and asked the question of vladimir putin. >> they also found they unreasonably intrude into the private lives of ordinary citizens. individual whose have never been suspected of wrongdoing. does russia intercept, store, or analyze, in anyway, the communications of millions of individuals? >> joining me now from new york is a three listen time pulitzer prize winning, bart gellman. first, the fundamental question: any hesitation at going in publishing documents, n.s.a. documents that someone who broke the law to give them to you? >> we had all kinds of hesitation about what and when to publish as far as verifying and considering the security impact. our source was not allowed to give us the material, am i supposed to pretend that? one of the most significant consequential stories of my lifetime and i would not hold it back because someone gave it to me without au

. >> you can see this discussion gellman tonight at 8:00 eastern. 15, the is april deadline to file tax returns. we will talk with rachel bade about legislation in congress to overhaul the tax code and what it would be in for taxpayers. and a discussion with a person representing citizens for tax justice about whether the current tax code is fair. this morning we looked at what that new health and human services secretary will face when implementing the affordable care act. host: we are back. we will be talking about challenges for the next health and human services drifter. what does sylvia burwell face? the first enrollment. -- guest: we are getting through the first enrollment. right now. what doctors will people be able to see? there is a whole raft of issues. when it comes to putting the health care law in place. the next big one is premiums for 2015. that will be a political story, how much people see their costs rise. she will be under pressure to keep the rates down. we know there is some early backlash about the size of the provider networks. they are small the first year. they

gellman, how will the media respond and interact with this information? >> i will go first and go quick. we have to recruit for the generation that produced bradley manning and edward snowden. that is just reality. that generation has a different compass to transparency than my generation. that is a reality. that is something my old community is going to have to deal with, particularly since one of the major muscle movements in my community has been to generalized sharing. we used to have a principle called "need to know." been0 or 11 years, it has "need to share." then you have snowden. this is hard. the other impact of this is that, when you undertake an espionage activity, you put what you can gain over here and what you can lose over there. let's talk about signal intelligence. what can i gain? i could hear the head of state. i could hear the head of state's personal views. that is really cool. what could i lose? you could be embarrassed if that is public. you make that judgment. by the way, this hand is not a moral hand. it is a political and public-

i guess they are all for barton gellman. one is, do you wear a bow to safety because of what you know, either from terrorists because they know you have all this information, or from nsa? second question is, what do you think should happen to mr. snowden? and the third one is, do you and reporters at the guardian consult with one another? how do i want to divulge in terms of security issues? >> no, i don't fear for my personal safety. i worry a lot that, i have good evidence that there are actors, usually unknown, were trying to get into my material digitally. i mean, i cannot feel my entire life off of the internet and put something on the network and somebody topic and into. i don't put secret stuff there. but i got a warning from google that a state sponsored hacker was attempted to cover cover my's computer and my account. google then won't tell you who's doing it on what you can do about how they know. i've had a number of other fairly specific indicators that people are coming after my stuff. that is different from phy

really would hope that you will continue to talk about this issue and please join me in thanking bart gellman ellen is sheena ashkan soltani anne craig timberg for letting us walk through and tube marty beran who introduced the panel and a huge supporter of what was an enormous difficult hard and as you saw the nuts and bolts of how difficult this reporting was reporting over the last year and leading barton and ashkan and craig walk us through and get a sense of what they are dealing with. thank you again. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> you some independent scientists looks after was on the market and found the gene that was normally silent was switched on in that gene produces an allergen called canvassing so you may have in allergic reaction and someone you know may die from being the corn genetically engineered on labeled as containing an allergen but the process of genetic engineering created a switch on of the dormant gene and change 43 other genes as well as changes in the shape of proteins. monsanto's soy has a sevenfold increase, up to seven fold in

bart gellman is a senior fellow at the century foundation, author and pulitzer prize winning reporter over many years on national security issues. glenn greenwald is an investigative journalist, author, and columnist now at first look media which is the new journalistic venture, which as you know is backed by the ebay founder. he's also a former constitutional and civil rights lawyer. hi, everyone. the most obvious fact about the three of you right now is that you are not here. and i remember glenn when i met you in rio, you saying that there was a nontrivial chance that if you traveled to the united states you would be arrested. so could i begin by asking you if you still feel that way and why you do? >> i feel that way even more now since you were here, which i don't recall exactly when it was, but it was a couple months ago, there have been other episodes where international security officials have made it clear that they view what we're doing as being not just improper or dangerous but actually criminal. james clapboard the senior national security official in the u.s. government

barton gellman on my left is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter and author. he is a senior fellow at the century foundation. he is one of three journalists who received classified archives from edward snowden. lead the coverage at the post and is writing a book on the surveillance industrial revolution. he is being humble in his admission of his price. a reporter for the washington post read she covers issues relating to intelligence and government surveillance and civil liberties. she has written about the nsa and evolution of cyber policy. south eastas the asia correspondent for the washington post between 2002 and 2006. she has reported on the islamic militant network and the indian ocean tsunami. since 1995 she has cover the white house and virginia politics. she grew up in hawaii. ashkan soltani helps understanding that technical capabilities of government surveillance. he served as a technologist in the division of privacy at the federal trade commission. he also worked as the primary consultant for the wall street journal's series what they know. he is

really would hope that you all continue to talk about this issue and, please, join me in thanking bart gellman, ellen nakashima, ashkan soltani and greg timberg for really letting us walk through -- and also to marty baron who is a huge supporter of what was an enormous, difficult, hard and you saw the nuts and bolts of how difficult this reporting was over the last year and letting barton and ashkan and ellen and walking us through what their journeys have been like. thank you again. [applause] >> and some news about new york congressman michael grimm from "the washington post." that he has been taken into custody facing federal charges, a 0-count indictment -- 20-count indictment against him connected to a restaurant he opened before entering congress and alleging that the restaurant hid more than a million dollars in tax receipts from local and federal tax officials while also paying workers hundreds of thousands of dollars off the books. now, aides say that house speaker john boehner has not spoken to congressman grimm about the indictment. neither the speaker, nor majority leader, eric ca

please join me in thanking bart gellman, ellen nakashima, ashkan soltani, and craig timberg. [applause] also to marty baron who introduced the panel and was a huge supporter of how difficult the reporting was over the last year and for letting us walk through and get a sense of what their journey has been like. thank you again. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> the british parliament has easter break. livean watch a return wednesday, april 30 at 7 a.m. eastern. you can find other reddish public affairs programs. on foreign policy border enforcement. after that, the implementation of the health care law and possible changes to the law. and then "q&a." >> a think tank they focus on the potential for congressional action. their discussion was about one hour and 25 minutes. >> welcome, everybody. if i can ask everybody to make sure you turn off your ringers on your phones, that would be terrific. we have a wonderful event today that is timely and also very informative and eye-opening too

please join me in thanking bart gellman, ellen nakashima, ashkan .oltani, and craig timberg [applause] also to marty baron who introduced the panel and was a huge supporter of how difficult the reporting was over the last for letting us walk through and get a sense of what their journey has been like. thank you again. [applause] look at our primetime schedule on the c-span networks. starting at 8:00 eastern, we will bring you supreme court oral arguments and attorney remarks in the case to decide whether the aereo company has the right to retransmit programming without copyright fees. , american history tv with a conference held by american historians. some independent scientists anded at monsanto's corn found the gene normally silent was switched on. that produces an allergen. you may have an allergic reaction. someone you know may die from eating the corn genetically engineered and not labeled as containing in allergen. the process created a switch on of the dormant gene and the change of 43 others, as well as changes in the shape of proteins. soy has a -- monsanto sevenfold increas

barton gellman on my left is a pulitzer prize-winning reporter and author. he is a senior fellow at the century foundation. he is one of three journalists who received classified archives from edward snowden. he has helped lead the coverage at "the post" and is writing a book on the surveillance industrial revolution. he is being humble in his admission of his prize. ellen nakishima is a reporter for "the washington post" who covers issues relating to intelligence and government surveillance and civil liberties. she has written about the nsa and evolution of cyber policy. she served as the south east asia correspondent for "the washington post" between 2002 and 2006. she has reported on the islamic militant network and the indian ocean tsunami. since 1995 she has cover the white house and virginia politics. she grew up in hawaii. ashkan soltani helps understanding that technical capabilities of government surveillance. he served as a technologist in the division of privacy at the federal trade commission. he also worked as the primary consultant for the wall

barton gellman is a two-time pulitzer prize winning journalist and lead reporter on edward snowden's nsa disclosures at the washington post. he has actually met snowden several times. >> in person once. >> he spent 21 years on the staff of the washington post and has won numerous awards, which i will mention only a few. his first pulitzer was awarded in 2002 for reporting on the september 11 attacks. the second pulitzer was awarded to him in 2008 for a series on dick cheney's vice presidency that went on to become the basis of his best-selling book. that book won the los angeles times book prize and was named a new york times best book of 2008. today he is a senior fellow at the century foundation and lecturer and author in residence at princeton's woodrow wilson school. he returned to the post temporarily in 2013 after receiving various nsa documents from edward snowden. with his colleagues he has broken stories about many of the things that we are going to be discussing tonight. so i would like to have you join me in welcoming our distinguished speakers and a national audience of c

greenwaldwith glenn she traveled to hong kong last snowden.terview bud gellman is a senior fellow the century foundation, author and pulitzer prize winning reporter over many years on national security issues. is angreenwald investigative journalist, author, and columnist now at first look media which is the journalistic venture, which as you know is backed by the e founder. formerso a constitutional and civil rights lawyer. hi, everyone. obvious fact about the three of you right now is that here.e not and i remember glenn when i met rio, you saying that there was a nontrivial chance to the you traveled united states you would be arrested. youould i begin by asking if you still feel that way and do?you >> i feel that way even more now since you were here, which i don't recall exactly when it was, but it was a couple months ago, there have been other episodes where international security officials have made it view what we're doing as being not just improper or dangerous but actually criminal. james clapboard the senior national security official in the u.s. government has been running

think gives a kind of protection to those journalists like glenn greenwald and laura patras and bart gellman and others who wrote this which is which i support. but i i don't know how much you know to go back to the point we made before i don't know how much i mean i'm worried that the system itself will. continue without any any kind of restraint any kind of oversight any kind of control. i mean that that unfortunately as the weeks go by seems to be where we're at it you know there's an investigation going on in germany over and they say and g c h q spying in that country and even president obama came out after those scandals broke out and actually this whole surveillance staying maybe a little over the top you know we're going to try to sort of cut down that but do you think london and washington will agree to be part of that investigation in germany well know that you know the markle has asked the white house for guarantees that german citizens will not be spied upon and the united states government won't give those guarantees and they have no intention of giving those guarantees. i mean

security reporting the war with fellow reporters you went to mccaskill and washington post barton gellman marches in and staffs you're going to met greenwald at the event and joins us now with more on a star so you spoke with greenwald this morning the first time since you stepped foot into u.s. soil after the n.s.a. revelations what's the significance of this return there were concerns he may have trouble getting back into the u.s. . that's right lindsay i mean the significance of this is pretty huge because june will mark exactly one year since the mindblowing revelations were made with the help of edward snowden this last survey was conducted by the u.s. government by the n.s.a. certainly this was a huge scandal and one here on words these rats are still very tangible the journalists who worked on the story felt like it was a huge question whether or not they might be detained when they come back here certainly going greenwald spent the last year in brazil and you know heading here he and did not know what would happen and today so far for now these questions have been answered they we

national security reporting award with fellow reporters you and mccaskill and washington post barton gellman artie's themselves met greenwald at the event and joins us now. well you spoke to the man himself this morning for the first time since he stepped foot on u.s. soil after the n.s.a. revelations what is the significance of this return was there any concerns he may have trouble getting back to from the u.s. . well lindsay you know june last year june this year is going to mark the first anniversary since those the mindblowing snowden revelations were made in this entire time when greenwald was not returning to the west amid you know crazy accusations saying that possibly he's an accomplice to what has been going on with these with these revelations possibly he should be treated as a criminal many people saw him and snowden as heroes whereas there's been tons of criticism about whether he said himself should face any charges in the u.s. for simply being a journalist and doing his job and of course immense these concerns there were also lots of questions about what kind of treatment he wo