. >> jaron lanier is a virtual reality pioneer who helped create the first avatar.has a surprising message. technology might not be the key to immortality. >> so as a virtual reality guru, what are your thoughts on this idea that we will one day be able to merge ourselves with technology to live forever? >> my old buddy ray kurzweil talks about uploading people into virtual reality. and you know, having built a lot of virtual reality machines, it's a great place to visit. it's not someplace you want to live really. especially not forever. right now, we don't know how the brain encodes information. oh, yeah, but sure we'll be able to download the brain. i mean, there's a bit of hubris there. we have a lot more to learn about the brain. so hypothetically. but you know, if we're talking about that already, we're being kind of nutty. >> the year 2000. >> and maybe jaron has a point. >> look at the future. >> after all -- >> electronic written communication. >> supersonic dishwashers. >> lots of technologies haven't quite worked out the way the futurists thought they wou

. >> jaron lanier is a virtual reality pioneer who helped create the first avatar.s a surprising message. technology might not be the key to immortality. >> so as a virtual reality guru, what are your thoughts on this idea that we will one day be able to merge ourselves with technology to live forever? >> my old buddy ray kurzweil talks about uploading people into virtual reality. and you know, having built a lot of virtual reality machines, it's a great place to visit. it's not someplace you want to live really. especially not forever. right now, we don't know how the brain encodes information. oh, yeah, but sure we'll be able to download the brain. i mean, there's a bit of hubris there. we have a lot more to learn about the brain. so hypothetically. but you know, if we're talking about that already, we're being kind of nutty. >> the year 2000. >> and maybe jaron has a point. >> look at the future. >> after all -- >> electronic written communication. >> supersonic dishwashers. >> lots of technologies haven't quite worked out the way the futurists thought they would

anna lee padilla and jaron brown. michael barrett. and karen fish kin. >> good afternoon, mr. boyd. >>> good afternoon. my name is darnell boyd and i'm here to talk about the 18 year olds. as i said before, a lot of 18 year olds, their birthday, they're born early january through june. during those months they're still in high school and a lot of them going through hard times. we come here to ask you to do free muni for youth, and for youth, support free muni for youth, for seniors and people with disabilities. thank you. >> thank you. >> anna lee padilla. >> good afternoon. [speaking through interpreter] >>> good afternoon, my name is anna lee padilla. i'm a member of power. we're here again, even though we shouldn't have to be here again. we've done everything possible to organize our communities, our youth, mothers and children. we've worked hard to raise funds, collect signatures. we've gone to the mta and we know that there's been a big donation made for this campaign and we're asking that it include 18 year olds. there is nothing that we haven't done toward this campaign

jaron rainier helped create the first avatar, but he has a surprising text memessage.ology might not be the key to immortality. >> what are your thoughts on this idea that we will one day be able to merge ourselves with technology to live forever? >> the talk about uploading virtual reality, it's a great place to visit. it's not a place you want to live, really, especially not forever. right now, we don't know how the brain encodes information. oh, yeah, but sure we'll be able to down load the brain. there's a bit of hubris there. we have a lot more to learn about the brain. if we're talking about that already, we're being kind of nutty. >> and maybe he has a point. after all, lots of technologies haven't quite worked out the way the futurists thought they would. >> you know, the digital world has spawned what's basically a new religion. and there's nothing wrong with that. i don't feel like it's my place to judge somebody else's religion. >> when you hear about the sing lairty, you hear that much more as a religious movement versus a technological movement? >> it's re