here to help answer that is linda kinsler. she's covering this for the new republic.s i was just mentioning, pro-russian forces refusing to vacate their occupied -- the beings that they've occupied. you also have president vladimir putin calling the area in the eastern ukraine new russia. this does not look very good. >> right. well, the separatists in eastern ukraine have said that they will not leave their post and the occupied government buildings until there is a referendum on the autonomy of the regions. something that the ukrainian prime minister and president said that they are open to. so what they really would like is for increased power of the regional governments to, for example, use russia as an official language. >> linda, there's a lot of talk, of course, in this country about what the u.s. should do, what obama should do, and i think a lot of that talk is missing that. europe is in much better a position to do something about this, and this is really their fight more than ours. judy dempsey at strategic europe is what's at stake is europe's post-gold wa