look at marriott.ompany shares beat the markets two years running with a new record high this morning. investors like many things, including the growth they see in as the company's his most recent acquisition, a $200 million deal closing today that almost doubles its rooms in africa. to missus from watch morning is the ceo, arnie, good to see you and thank you for spending time with us. met me ask you about buying and selling. it buys a bunch of stuff. it also sells a bunch of stuff. asset sales on a regular basis. are you more of a buyer than a where or vice versa given we are in the hotel cycle? >> there is a big difference tween by one company and buying a single hotel asset. the assets we invest in, we invest in them temporarily. almost all of them, we will turn .round and resell our business is not to be in the investment business, but to be running hotels. comparison, we're buying operating company. it manages 116 hotels. we are thrilled to enter that market in a big way. and we will never sell i

liz: cheryl casone sat down with marriott international ceo with the inside scoop.for the stock. >> the stock, record high today as well as hilton hitting a record high today. what is so interesting talking to arne sorenson, the numbers came out after the bell yesterday as you both know. things are very solid. here is what he said about growth first. >> and we're now starting another year with this 6%ish, kind of revpar growth. it feels to us like further proof that the recovery is solid and on a continue for a few years at least ahead of us. then we see increasing positive stuff outside of the united states. >> so one of the things that happened when the earnings numbers came out obviously was about that north american growth, guys but really what he told me, here is the next big thing. he said he is looking overseas. he just got back from asia. listen to what he told me about the future of the company and where the money is going to come from. >> the part of the economy most relative to us is consumer, chinese consumer part which the government is manaially focuse

>> we're so excited to see the marriott marquis in washington finally open.center, is a decade-long project, to get from idea to opening. we're finally at opening, and we couldn't be more excited. >> you know, in preparation for this interview, i was going to ask you why anybody at this stage would open a hotel in washington when the market has found it difficult to grow, partly because of the federal cutbacks, but also, of course, because group bookings haven't returned in the industry. i saw the figures you've come through with today that actually revenue per available room across the country in the first quarter is up over 6%, much better than people expected, and the outlook also is being raised for you guys. >> yeah, what we're seeing, both in the united states and around the world, is really strong same-store performance. and in some respects, it's a steady as you go message. we've seen rev par coming out of the recession at 5%, 6%, year on year, starting in 2010, continuing into early 2014. so we're a little over 6% across the united states, and a litt

socorro prieto dijo que feliciano estaba en el casino del hotel marriott y que trato de convencerlo para voy primero. y como fumaba tanto le decÍa, vas a verme ahÍ. en ese lugar. y vas a estar ahÍ. >>> se suponÍa que partiera hacia mÉxico. aquÍ en puerto rico se darÁ un concierto masivo con gilberto s santarosa y vÍctor manuel. >>> el presidente obama dijo hoy que tiene bien claro de cuÁl es la Única vÍa para terminar con 12 millones de indocumentados. pero no tuvo eco en lÍderes republicanos. y vamos a ver lo que dijo que disminuyeron 43%. >>> el presidente obama dijo esta tarde que la Única manera de arreglar el sistesra es por acciÓn legislativa y que tomo las medidas administrativas posibles. reiterÓ esto a erik cantor. >>> que el congreso debe actuar, lo uniÓ que nos detiene es que el liderazgo no estÁ dispuesto a permitir que el progreso avance, cÁncer no vio ni la conversaciÓn, declaro que el presidente no tiene un deseo sincero de trabajar juntos, no se ataca a la gente con la que esperas entrar en un diÁlogo serio. el republicano dennis... manifestera su apoyo a una reforma, y p

my thanks to ceo of marriott international.in charter and public schools are 11% more likely to graduate versus students in district run schools. these kind of stats have the attention of wall street. >> when it comes to charter schools, wall street is bullish. it focuses on establishing charter schools in new york city. from washington, to discuss, we have in this teacher sean macomb . named the national teacher of the year, he will be honored by the white house had a president obama. p gala, it was a pretty significant amount. >> 7.7 5 million is probably three or four times what a typical gala in new york would raise. it shows the commitment that spread throughout the industry. how are charter schools really making a difference? >> my sister teaches at a charter school and diaphragm to teach at a charter school. when you see a comparison, you're looking at a really false comparison between public schools that accept all children whether they are english-language learners or special education and charter schools that have a s

. >>> checking in with marriott international.n the midst of a travel boom to the midst of africa. >>> and a new jobs index that gauges the state of small business. the ceo of paychex will be here to unveil the results first here on cnbc as the final hour of "squawk box" begins right now ♪ working for a living ♪ working for a living ♪ i'm taking what they're giving because i'm working for a living ♪ >> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc, first in business worldwide. sally's gone. >> you consider this working by the way? are you working for a living? >> became public at 17. split. it's at 148. 8.50 to 148. i'm joe kernen. >> we need more women ceos. clearly. >> wow, wow, wow. i'm here with andrew ross sorkin and -- you're big tile. you're doing it all. >> i'm very happy and lucky. >> that guy that keeps following you around here, if he's a problem -- have you ever seen this? one of our reporters follows her around like robert frank. >> almost like we're married or something. >> i didn't know that. i was like, robert, not for

janet at the marriott. not even by an elected politician polite and gentle. from the russian army fix uncle is no doubt that yet in my stomach and once in a bus with accordance with its estimates for the pulpit is done the other time in what you get when we look ahead when a strange situation i would wear. not much to how much that the media in the west might refer to a promotion. that amounts to buy the new system to describe the evidence that the west it seems that it was the talk box that our parents don't turn them into how much terminology like americans alike the captivity she said it's impossible to compete in westmead at the moment that the costs which are two people on the ground in eastern ukraine who are taking part in protests against the iraqi government to course but the us the new house has been sent to accept the call. cox has to do with the woman at that the statistical quirk rumors that these people regard this is what's been said and what form that immediately that all forty three to eight people. well cos whatever develops in ukraine. we'v

sources say they have included philip morris, coca-cola, monsanto, the marriott corporation and tysonoods, as well as restaurants willing to fork over a pile to a hit man like berman while paying their employees as little as possible. >> because restaurant workers, they serve us, and they should be able to put food on their own tables. >> saru jayaraman is one of rick berman's primary targets. she's co-founder and co-director of roc-united. >> roc-united! >> that's the restaurant opportunities centers, whose 13,000 members across the country are fighting for better wages and working conditions. because they've been making headway, they've got powerful enemies. berman and his clients have gone nuclear, running full page attack ads against raising the minimum wage, funding academic studies built on faulty premises, and creating a website called rocexposed.com that constantly vilifies the workers' cause. saru jayarman is with me now. she's also director of the food labor research center at the university of california, berkeley and the author of this book, "behind the kitchen door." welc

>> before the storm hit we left my office next door, and as we were sitting in the lobby of the marriott watched as the wind picked up, there was an 18-wheeler delivery truck that turned over on its side as the wind came. all of the windows started blowing out of the lobby. >> it must have been a crazy scene, chaosic. >> it was. once the windowed starting breaking, we got further down in the hallway of the hotel and road it out there. afterwards there was definitely damage all around us. >> thanks very much. we appreciate you joining us, and we're glad you all are safe. >> thank you. >>> residents of some of the towns hit heaviest on sunday have begun to return home to look at the damage and prepare for what may come next. >> we lived right there. that's the back porch, but the double is gone. >> what was lost in just moments, everything, but the hope. >> all of our -- our memories inside are gone, and we'll have to find them, hopefully. >> battering a community with high winds, the storm barrels through may flower, arkansas just outside of little rock. the vicious twister even more grou

an ice rink in san mateo with retail stores are expected to show up at a community meeting at the marriott hotel when the developer presents the prepareal. the center closed down when the lease at the shopping center ran out and the shopping center owner we wants the city to change the zoning to turn it into retail space. the risk is part of the master plan and should be re-opened. they say people would want to skate or play ice hockey have to commute a long distance to or ice risks in the bay area. >>> this morning, still not as windy and we are calming things down for a while. >> absolutely, for a short while because the breezes are back tomorrow with the next system and it will give you a look at what on in walnut creek and all is quiet. we have calm conditions. hardly any cloud cover. but a lost pollen. if you had issues year, custody for different, high amount of tree and weed pollen and mold spores and pollution are low and u.v. index is higher than yesterday and very high so the high clouds come in are going to dim the sunshine enough you do not need sunscreen. we have low clouds al

so they had the marriott off spring and many other billionaire children to the white house even though they don't like the fat cats. but the children apparently are fine. why? >> p this was the white house summit of liberal baby billionaires. these are not the billionaire industrialists. they are the heirs. the kids who will inherit their money. when obama said you didn't build that he's talking about them. but they get an invitation to the white house to sit down and meet with white house officials and have a summit on important issues. the 19-year-old kid who is a georgetown freshman who spoke in a panel has important views on human trafficking. >> other billionaire children need to hear from him. >> exactly. >> this was not covered. you didn't hear about it until the washington post covered it a month later or a week later -- after the fact. >> mm-hmm. >> if a republican held an event like this, if george w. bush did this. >> or mitt romney had held an account of baby billionaires what the democrats would have done with it? of course. the new york times covered this almost a month l

the firm increasing the price target to $99 from $76, shares of the special fertilizer maker, and marriott. notes strong room rates and a rise in occupancy. that has the stock up 1.7%. ty, not a bad move. >>> i hope you will all join us at 4:00. it is a celebration to be with you. you've been here almost since the start. >> that's right. >> congratulations. >> and i love it. thank you very much. >>> that will do it for "power lunch." >>> let's see what's coming up on "street signs." >> good es what? the economy stinks. what's the fed going to do and say about it? we're going to find out today. it's all starting five minutes early. also, whatever you want to say about donald sterling, you can't say he won't -- why the clippers and what they're really worth. we're starting five minutes early. a special edition is up next. some financial guidance ud so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fly. we helped sydney manage her debt and prioritize her goals, so she could really turn up the volume on

i was at company the other day, this guy in dave archer in marriott, ohio, paying some of his weldersmaster tig welders over $100,000 and still can't find enough welders. rejecting orders from customers. can't find enough people. we're trying to do everything we can to encourage more and more young people to go into these skilled trades. you mentioned, i look a little young. i do. i'm, state treasurer i get that a lot. a lot of people in political office have a variety of goals. my goal is i try to keep simple. by the time i'm 40, i hope to be shaving. [laughter] gerri: you're a pleasure, josh. thanks for coming on the sw. that's funny. >> gerri, good to be on. this is good way to end my friday afternoon to have dinwer my wife. gerri: i love that. one more time. tell the people out there name of the company in marietta, ohio, that needs welders. >> pioneer pipe. gerri: pioneer pipe. if you're a welder, you're looking for work, pioneer pipe in marietta, ohio. thanks for coming on the show, josh. i hope you shave by 42. >> bye-bye. gerri: up next, you heard about these predictions for e

oregon ducks quarterback marcus marriott ta could have been a top ten pick in this draft but he decided at oregon. he said, quote, i wouldn't say it's priceless, but i would say it fulfills what we need. guys will always want a little more money. that's just the nature of college athletics. most experts believe, gretchen, that union or no union, the way that college athletes are treated is about to dramatically change. >> wow, the story isn't going away. thanks so much. by the way, i knew it was connecticut. i had florida in the pool. that's why i set that. >>> a girl scout setting a new record, her secret to selling tens of thousands of cookies. wait until you hear what she wants to do, next. ♪ sell the cookies until they are gone ♪ ♪ because there's many, many more where they came from ♪ ogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals, antioxidants, and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition inharge™. [ bottle ] ensure®. [ mala body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion

. >> reporter: the casualty toll makes it the deadliest attack in islamabad since the marriott hotel. the pakistani taliban issued a statement condemning the attack. attacks in which innocent people are the sole target, the statement said, are contrary to islamic laws. there is currently a cease-fire between the taliban and the government as efforts are under way to negotiate an end to its seven-year-long insurgency. the prime minister's office has not yet pointed the finger of blame at any particular group for the market explosion. they described it as an effort by pakistan's enemies to destabilize the country. said the government would remain resolute in its efforts for peace. there was a gun and suicide attack in this court complex in islamabad last month in which 11 people died. a splinter group of the taliban admitted responsibility for that. for all the insecurity in the capital, attacks have been rare. whether this will reinforce or unsettle the current peace initiatives is yet to be seen. >>> ukraine's interior minister says the situation in the east of the country will be so

marriott will report first quarter earnings tomorrow. gain of 51 cents a share. that stock is currently down toward session lows, about 3.5% to the down side. back over to you. >> thank you, dom. >> stocks are given up their gains. s&p is flat for the year. the dow and the nasdaq, well, the dow is holding on to a gain. now it's lost 13 points. the nasdaq is accelerating its losses, down 56. given this volatility, how do you invest in this market? randy brown is co-chief investment officer. jim iuorio and jim kill burg assistant i by. the volatility some people expect to see ramp up. can you expect that volatility to continue? >> yes, we do expect volatility to continue. there's tremendous geopolitical risk given what's going on in russia, given the weather-related slowdown in the u.s. in the front loading of that slowdown. then what's going on in the middle east and other parts of the world. so geopolitical tensions i think are going to cause increased volatility. there's also been the technical of reed positioning. we think that may con

marrio marriott? industry right now, scott, they really have been kicking it pretty nicely. when you look at everything involved in travel, it's been moving to the upside. there's been more volatility around names like priceline, of course. the hotel industry specifically, along with the rental car world, this has been moving to the upside and the hotels definitely leading, may yrriott one of the best. they're very shareholder friendly. i think it goes higher. >> that stock was getting a nice move as we were talking about it. what do you make of telecom today? it's been an up and down kind of day. worst performing sector in the s&p today. josh? >> they really didn't like what verizon had to say. verizon talking about a negative i think 100,000 users which is the first time ever and it speaks to how saturated the mobile phone market is. something strange. >> technology is the best. i guess no surprise given apple and facebook, the earnings there, murph? >> absolutely. i think that can be some of the re

he looked yesterday like congress was so well-informed and marriott had not even read put forward.e waswas alarming to me, yes. the response was 200 thousand pages long. my staff got through it all. there was even more. nonetheless, that was important. the response was 200 thousand pages long. my staff got through it all. there was even more. nonetheless, that was important. at least with the important information there about what went wrong. ?lass what do you think though she seemed genuinely sorry and did meet with the family. a meeting with ken feinberg. class i have no doubt she is deeply sorry and ice the kylie of her. is -- highly -- i speak highly of her. but she is going before the senate today and there is a lot of pressure on her to find out a those issues and is vaguely part costs less than a dollar and why could she not replace it? that will cost a lot more now. issues seems to be the corporate culture at general motors their time and time again, they are and about cost. yesterday, he said the new gm would be focused on the consumer. she has the ability to change the company

write a letter to the supreme court and if the supreme court had not taken the trouble to look for marriottn that one crude petition among other by most, the vast machinery of american mob would've gone on functionally undisturbed. they have been changed. because of this case and why we have public defenders available. pdn was an interesting man. he was the semi literate drifter. he was definitely familiar with the law. he came in and out of trouble most of his life. his early history was he ran away from home around eight grades there is educated. he stayed there is in juvenile institution and after that he was one of those guys who seem to be in the wrong place him on time. june 3rd 1961 and the bay harbor pool hall had been broken into. gideon was supposedly there. eyewitnesses claim from the back alley when police investigated the window had been broken. in fact, someone had broken into the vending machine, taken wine, cigarettes, some coke and approximately $65 in change from the vending machine. as i said, gideon was a shady terror. by that time he was approximately 51 years old and h

and the marriott boatlift, as i said, is the best sort of sample of that we have had. only brought about 2500 cubans to the united states, or something like that number. it could be many more in the future. and there is risk also of spreading problems throughout the caribbean, throughout latin america. been inn state has place for a long time. it will not be there forever. i think you have to be ready for what happened. that may include giving humanitarian assistance, or maybe not. or maybe it will include lifting the embargo, or maybe not. maybe it will include helping cubans to think through their political future. there are a lot of propositions that are involved in preparing for cuba to make its transition. and this is one that the united states cannot avoid. we can stay out of syria. we could stay at libya. we could even statically -- out of egypt. -- we could even stay out of egypt. but cuba is not one we can avoid. host: because of proximity? guest: two things. one is a committee, but another proximity.-- one is but another is history. the united states sent tro

was no mention of any time six or 12 months and it is still about data dependency and hitting this marriotttion data that will get them to move one way or the other on the rate schedule. that is why we still think it is a second-half event. >> what do you make is the treasury reaction today? >> the longer you go out on the curve, the more it's about policy. that played to the minutes that on the short end, we reverse course. everywhere on the short end of the curve and we saw a little bit of that reversal in the beginning of february -- april, rather. the bond market was like, what's. let's start backing out of that trade. then the bond markets deepened as it should have been. collect someone who is treating the fixed income market in trying to strategize, if it is data dependent, what do you do? do you just try to be a better predictor of macroeconomic data? >> i would not want to be a rates trader. it's trying to read what they are thinking in the forward guidance language a laid out on the 19th of march does not help but all. they mention in the minutes that everyone wanted to change it

i wonder if they stay at the marriott hotel. has anyone stayed at the marriott hotel in dublin?t. >> tax inversion statewise, bill de blasio's new york drives a number of hedge fund managers to florida. every other day i pick up the phone, where you living now? florida. >> do you know what, i've got that true! it's really funny you mention that. >> it's true. >> or marc andreessen's joke about silicon valley's icahn will target them for spending too much money for being based in california. >> here you go. how about the best april fool's joke? >> thjimmy fallon. >> enough with the reply to all, everybody, come on. i had 100 of the black finkfein e-mails. >> good morning, if you look at the curve today with the fives at 177, that means all maturities including fives and up to fives are now down on the year in terms of price, up on the year in terms of yield. we closed at 174 last year on fives. look at two-days of 5s, 10s, and 30s and what will jump out are a couple of things. the knee jerk reaction was teamening and the adp numbers at 8:15 eastern were decent, firm, and we had a

the next meeting of the club will be here at the marriott, on monday, april 28, and the speaker will be former chairman of the federal reserve system, alan greenspan. so thank you for coming today and do please enjoy your lunch. thank you very much. [applause] >> during this month, c-span is pleased to reason -- present the winners in the student cam video documentary competition. question we asked students to base their documentary on was , what is the most important issue the u.s. should consider in 2014? eighth-graders from beverly cleary school in portland oregon want congress to make gun control the most important issue. >> hi, i'm henry. >> i'm becky. >> on daniel. >> there have been numerous past -- mass shootings. >> we think the biggest issue congress should address is gun control. >> we first talked to a criminal psychologist about his opinion on gun control. >> beinga a criminal psychologist has caused me to be involved in cases involving firearms and has caused me to study the scientific literature that relates to violence involving firearms. in the course of that investi

the next meeting of the club be here at the marriott, on monday, april 28, and the chairmanill be former of the federal reserve system, alan greenspan. so thank you for coming today please enjoy your lunch. thank you very much. [applause] month'srup group president and c.e.o., wes bush spendinguss defense amid budget cuts at the economic club of washington d.c. today. can you see at the vebility live at 8:30 eastern on c-span 2. >> this morning on c-span, defense secretary liam fox discusses n.s.a. and theance perhaps effect of the edward snowden leaks. then, president obama is in to announce a new job training initiative. and later, federal reserve chair janet yellen speaks about the economic recovery at the york.ic club of new of the duke administrators early on were not the kids bad legal advice, which was essentially, parents, don't get lawyers, cooperate with the police, and basically this is away.to go so that gave duke, duke thought legal exposure because of that. and beyond that there was this desire to make this go away, to protect the duke brand, to make sure that, you know, on

the next meeting will be here at the marriott. on monday, april 28 and the speaker will be alan greenspan. like you for coming and please enjoy your lunch. thank you very much. >> coming up emma former british defense secretary liam fox discovers nsa surveillance programs and the effect of the edward snowden lakes. then, former secretary of state hillary clinton is among the speakers at the fifth annual women in the world summit. by federal reserve chair janet yellen at the economic club of new york. on the next "washington journal. and the new book on the state of the global economy. sun correspondent talks about a nevada rancher who is facing a conflict with the bureau of land management overgrazing fees. and your phone calls, facebook comments, and tweets. live at 7 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> defense secretary chuck hagel and the polish defense minister hold a news conference to discuss russian intervention, u.s. poland relations, and other topics. life coverage at 1045 eastern here on c-span. >> our colleagues have spent this

hotels, hyatt and marriott both had excellent numbers, both of them beat on earnings right now.hey are moving the whole hotel group. the internet content stocks were all mixed because twitter user numbers were disappointing and zynga to the upside and finally movies and entertainment. amc was a little bit of a miss there. they had a quarterly dividend. what impressed me about them. attendance was up 5% and they were able to raise prices about 2%, still on the downside but raising prices in this environment, pretty impressive. guys, back to you. >> especially in light of the gdp report. thanks, bob. >> today we learned the ceo of a company called shaneer energy has paid $142 million in 2013 to its ceo, a company that's yet to turn an annual profit. the salary of a ceo from a public company requires the approval of the board of directors and reminds us what warren buffett told cnbc last week about boards rubber stamp ing comp. >> the xebization committee comes in and works for a few hours and days and maybe they have consultants and they say we have approved this plan. never yet h

marriott rewards, according to jd pow. >>> good morning, i'm joe kernen.time for the retailers. >> it's 12 noon somewhere. >> that's what we'll do during the break. we'll have a beer drinking contest. >> so far, no signs of intelligent life. >> good morning. good morning. good morning. >> good morning. >> how's my hair? >> i can't say death threat again. i can't! >> we have to go. three, two. >> death threat. becky, i can't let you be alone. i'm willing to do what's necessary, too. >> i'm not doing that. i would never dance on camera, ever. >> you have danced on camera. >> "squawk box" begins -- what? >> now you're in on the joke. ♪ you are the best thing >> good hair, man. >> you are. >> great hair. >> great moments. >> the hair has held on. >> i tried some of that stuff and i only used it for a couple months and i think it worked. >> you're done? >> i have breasts now, but that's fun, too, you know, if i'm alone. i remember a lot of things. i wasn't here 25 years but i think i was here -- you were here from the beginning of "squawk box." >> that was 1 95

so start with marriott, they're 15, 16 billion. >> i can't see how both sides are worried about bedbugs will invest. >> they will have a hole, too. >> i rented my office, how many guys have used this? one of the guys says i've used it like a dozen times. i'm shocked. i love it. i think it will be big in europe. >> it's big in places where you don't have other rooms. >> you are not worried about climates anywhere? >> no, there aren't proliferation of chains, hotel chains in europe. everyone is a bed and breakfast. i think they're used to like branding out. i think, that's what you missed in priceline if you didn't pay attention, they're a big business. >> the owner? >> i don't know. i haven't done it. maybe we'll do it is there that's not a question? who cleans the toilet? >> i don't get it. i wouldn't want to live in someone else's house. >> the last time they said they'll send you a picture of what they want to look like. you can't smell a picture. can you? >> the statistics on it are pretty good, repeat customers. 65% of the stays aren't empty houses, it's not like someone is there to

our lives and let's say put the chimpanzee up in a hotel room let's say we put a chimpanzee in a marriott and expect him to spend his life under fluorescent lights breathing re circulate the air eating mcdonald's food and watching television how long to we saw that animals health decline i don't think you take very long we fail to see that same thing happens to us we can't go back in time and we can't go back to hunting and gathering but we can start to eat a little bit more like hunter gatherers we can start to move a little bit more like hunter gatherers and we can start to shed a little bit of the domestication that keeps people feeling really oprah and suppressed and repressed and you talk about the need to also question quote new nutrition information can you give us an example of this and why we shouldn't trust these diet fads. also there is really only one diet for our species just like every species has sort of one diet and if we want to know what the natural diet for us is we can just look at hunting and gathering people i mean they still live in nature eating wild a lot of peopl

marriott maliki accused of marginalizing sunni and kurdish voices. is therebassador hill, a best outcome for the united states here? what is the united states looking for out of the selection? outcome think a best would be a free and fair election. that is peaceful with a clear path for the formation of the next government. back in 2010, it took them about my months to form a government. for this election, it might even take longer. some kind of clear path towards an election. i think it would be helpful that whoever wins, that winner will come out of a shia political formation. if the winner can reach out to the sunni community, i am less concerned about the kurdish community. butki is not popular there he has worked there in the past. but the problem is the great sectarian divide. arab world, just about every single area country, is sunni-run. they contain their enthusiasm for mr. maliki. if he ever had charisma, it cleared up a long time ago. he is not a very nice guy to deal with or a particularly open guy or a guy who is interested in reaching o