you put mr. drake through four years of hell. we had an american revolution.you not take 2.5 years to find a way to indict un-american. an american. >> he was a bush appointee? >> he was a bush appointee. i actually came out of the courthouse and said hey, there is a third branch of government. >> we are going to run at of time for this session. can we get questions? has anybody got a question? over there on the side. we will try to get you involved. >> hello? >> hello. my name is karen. i work at annenberg. i think you have sufficiently scared all of the journalism students who wanted to be investigative reporters. my question to you is twofold. journalist -- how do you assure a source that they will not be elegant if, the are being spied onto their phones, computers, laptops. how do you do that? if reporters cannot do that, if they cannot protect their sources, have abdicated their role? i will take a stab at that. a big step in protecting sources, which hardly any journalists are taking, is using these encryption. have any people in here using encryption? i

you put mr. drake through four years of hell. we had an american revolution.you not take 2.5 years to find a way to indict un-american. -- an american. >> he was a bush appointee? >> he was a bush appointee. i actually came out of the courthouse and said hey, there is a third branch of government. >> we are going to run at of time for this session. can we get questions? has anybody got a question? over there on the side. we will try to get you involved. >> hello? >> hello. my name is karen. i work at annenberg. i think you have sufficiently scared all of the journalism students who wanted to be investigative reporters. my question to you is twofold. how is a journalist -- how do you assure a source that they will not be elegant if, the journalists are being spied onto their phones, computers, laptops. how do you do that? if reporters cannot do that, if they cannot protect their sources, have abdicated their role? i will take a stab at that. a big step in protecting sources, which hardly any journalists are taking, is using these encryption. have any people in

mr. drake, how would you like to spend the rest of your life in prison?less you cooperate with their investigation. i said i will not depart from the truth and i cut off all contact with the fbi. i hired a private attorney, spend lots of money over the next two years, was charged in secret. in march of 2010 and then i was publicly indicted in april of 2010 facing 35 years in prison, five counts of espionage and one threat against justice someone for making false statements. now i'm on the front page of just about every newspaper in the nation because it was extraordinarily rare. i was ers whistleblower since ellsberg charged with espionage. no attorney would represent me pro bono. those who are willing to do so the firm said if you want to represent mr. drake u. you will have to leave the firm. we have government officials. we have senior contracting officials that we represent conflict of interest. i was cleared indigent before the court and i had federal public defenders appointed to provide my defense. .. >> i would have the blood of american soldiers

you put mr. drake through four years of hell. you know, we did have an american paraphrasing the judge, an american revolution. you don't take two and a half years to find a way to indict an american. >> the judge was a bush appointee. >> bush appointee. judge richard bennett. i actually came out on the courthouse steps and said, hey, there is a third branch of government. >> so because we're going to run out of time for this session, we have mics, can we get questions? how are we doing this, gang? anybody got a question that you can shout out? >> [inaudible] >> over there on the side. so why don't some people line up, and we'll try to get you involved. yeah. >> hi. my name's karen lowe, i teach here at annenberg. i think you all have sufficiently scared all the journalism students who wanted to be investigative reporters. my question to you is twofold. one, how as a journalist can you assure a source that they won't be outed if, as you say, the journalists are being spied on through their phones, their computers, their laptops?