ms. roberto. >> good morning. i am delighted to be with you this morning. i am the associate vice president of the environmental defense fund clean energy program. edf isn't your typical environmental organization. i served as a commissioner in ohio and i likely don't fit your stereotype of an environmental a activist. we use market-based solution and draw on science, economic, and partnerships and bipartisan. the clear message i want to share with you is with or without new environmental regulations market-base changes are transforming our electric system but our electricity system can still meet our reliability needs. as a former regilator and aaa system operator no one puts a higher value on the system than i do. i am confidant transition can e happen without sacrificing anything. we need to recognize that the electricity system we built in the last century and the regulations that governor them are no longer accurate either to ensure reliability or to keep up the changes in technology, environment standards or the market changes. our energy landscape ha

ms. roberto spent good morning, madame chairman, distinguished members of the committee. i am delighted to be with you this morning. my name is cheryl roberto. i served as the associate vice president of environmental defense fund clean energy program. edf is like a typical environmental organization, and as a former state regulator i served as the commission in ohio and as electric assistant executive, i likely don't fit your stereotype of an environmental activist. at edf we work to solve the most critical and if i'm of the problems using market space solutions. we uniquely affected in that approach, drawdown on science, economics, partnerships and ardent bipartisanship. the clear message that of want to share with you today is that with or without new environmental regulations, market-based changes are transforming our electric city system. but our electricity system can summit our reliability needs. as former regulator and a system operator, no one puts a higher premium on safety and reliability on our electric system than i do. while the fundamental nature of our elec

ms. roberto said that there are changes but in the of meantime my question is what can agree to right now but if you could comment on that as well. >> certainly agree should take the time to get this rights. with other activities to ensure the right parties come together to make the situation better but it is clearly the notion of capacity markets with a cybersecurity coming together in the same if framework but bond to be thoughtful about but think of the issues that can occur. talk about first contingency adages the system we plan that a round of the stressful events way take away resources and not on the take away power but of larger focus with the reactive power that many facilities provided. those are key components that maintained the integrity of the grid that people don't talk about with this over-the-top it did not provide that type of resources. to not only think about the power but also the ancillary services that reduced. >> stake to. i am sorry. >> commissioner endured testaverde you explain you are concerned that epa has greatly underestimated the amount of power it would be