little bit because i covered the health care debate quite closely and i remember following around bart stupakhe whole law essentially hinged on whether or not there would be protection for funds not to go towards abortion coverage. under the health care law, i want to read what the national journal writes. quote, if a plan does not offer abortion coverage or offers it under three exceptions then there is no conflict in federal subsidies may be applied plain and full. if it does include abortion coverage, subsidies may go toward the rest of the plan except those services. if a woman elects to have an abortion, she is fully responsible. isn't it then a mistruth to say that the health care law funds abortion? >> indeed it is not. in fact congressman driehaus agreed with us. the catholic church, the bishops agreed with us, the entire pro life movement, john boehner. our position is unless there's an amendment to this bill, which has been tried six times in the last couple of sessions of congress, then there will be abortion funding under the health care law an in fact that turns out to be. with e