we have one person, cathy peck, could we give her three minutes? could we have a microphone? >> is it on >> not on. >> test it. could you test it. >> no it is not working. >> hold on. >> we have got the professionals here and it will be on in a minute. >> try it now. >> hello. now we are hear. >> i am here, i am cathy peck, executive director of the hear foundation and hearing education awareness for rockers and it is an old name. and i am here to talk about the san francisco ear plug ordinance that was passed a decade ago and here worked with the mayor's office, and the board of supervisors, and the coalition on that early one. but we are very interested in seeing how that is done. and we want to find out if the club's have had any luck being, you know, compliant with it. and we think that that could be really beneficial to find out and maybe help them. in some way. >> and this is elans. and he is a researcher at smith, kettle and we worked in the past and actually before the ear plug ordinance was passed, we had done a research study with smith, on musicians and folks comin