the challenge with clery is geographically based and bound. >> so the answer to the clery problem is maybe mandating? the white house is talking about voluntarily doing climate surveys? >> i'm for mandating. they make you give back your books before you get your diploma. it has to be the subtle method of have you had an experience that you didn't want this to happen. when you force people to identify legally, i didn't know what happened to me was rape for a long time. i just thought it was my fault or something bad that happened. it took me a long time to come to that realization. >> how it is conducted. there has been a history in the united states done by the department of justice. do you have thoughts and recommendations in terms of people sharing? >> one of the recommendations that i would encourage is that campuses who are doing surveys use validated instruments for those surveys so that we are able to be able to compare from campus to campus the information that is coming out of these surveys in the ways that clery i believe was intended to function. also that there would be ab

are getting a clery compliance audit either through the clery-specific unit or as part of a larger student aid. is that what it is called? >> yes. >> a larger f.s.a. audit? what would be the number on an annual basis? >> i don't know the number on an annual basis. about 300. >> 300 a year? and has there been any attempt to collate those results and put a report together on college campuses on an annual basis that we could look at year-to-year. has there been any effort to do that? >> we have not done it yet, but we are going to implement that. >> ok. i was also an auditor. 13 is not very many for 7,000 campuses? >> yes. we certainly are planning to grow that office and as i mentioned, we are also doing that through our larger compliance effort so it is not just 13 people. i -- how many of the just clery audits are being done by the 13 auditors on an annual basis opposed to the 300 unit. the clery unit, how many are they doing? >> about 20. >> that is still a lot for 13 people. i can't wait to look at the audits. >> we also have a summary with an analysis of the findings that we put togethe

we also look at clery through those. so it's been done through two different mechanisms. >> about how many institutions would you say on an annual basis are getting a clery compliance audit, either through this clery specific unit or as part of a larger federal, federal student aid, is that what is called? a larger fsa audit. >> will be the number on an annual basis of? >> i don't know the number on an annual basis. , about 300. >> 300 a year. and has to be in any attempt to collate those results and put the report together on the status of clery compliance on an annual basis that we could look at year-to-year? has of any effort to do that? >> we have not done it yet but we're going to implement that. >> okay. besides being a prosecutor i was also an auditor, 13 auditors is not very many for what, 7000 campus is? >> yes. we certainly are planning to grow that office, and as i mentioned we're also doing that to our larger compliance efforts. so it's not just 13 people. >> how many of the just clery audits are being done b

clery has already anticipated what you are trying to do. city can that the share data and supplement the report. campuses have no authority to make city police work with them. that is something the government could do. back.an oppose and hold that way you are not forcing victim disclosure, you are just having a better relationship and that sounds to me like what you are getting out. know from laura's perspective, when you do have a college campus the does have a law enforcement agency trained versus a college campus that does not, you see more of a disconnect between local law enforcement and the institution when you do not have that entity on campus. it creates a lot of different challenges when dealing with the sharing of information. beshould campus staff required to report to the administration? >> i am not sure if i know the answer about whether they should or not, but if we require faculty, but also staff to report information, we have to educate our student body about where there are confidential resources and out -- and about the re

sclove has filed charges accusing brown of violating title ix and the clery act.addcomplaint will likely browned the list of at least 55 colleges and universities under federal investigation for their handling of sexual violence. to see our interview with lena sclove, go to democracynow.org. those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. we begin today's show looking at lidia. in washington, the focus remains largely on what happened in the libyan city of benghazi on september 11, 2012. when ambassador christopher stephens and three other americans were killed in an attack. fierceident sparked a political fight between republicans and democrats over the obama administration's handling of the embassy security and the steps it took in the aftermath of the attack. since then, congressional republicans have led eight separate investigations into the matter. on may 8, the republican-let house