ed maloney, let me start with you, what was the deal you had with people that you were encouraging to tell what they knew from those days? >> well, the deal essentially was encapsulated in a donor contract that was drawn up. which gave them to use the quote from it the ultimate power over disclosure. of the interviews that they gave, until they died at which point, the interview would be owned and become the property of boston college. in other words, this donor contract basically said no one else was allowed to invade this interview, or have a look at this interview, without the permission and say so of the interviewee. and a recent investigation by the chronicle of higher education, has demonstrated, we asked boston college to run this donor agreement, which is the crucial document, past it's lawyers and we were assured this had happened and it was on the base that is we had this assurance of legal security, is that the whole project went ahead. otherwise, it would have been still born. that was the basis of it, but let me just correct one or two mistakes in your introduction there.

. >>> ed-maloney joins us, he founded an oral history of the troubles. the arrest and allegation is based on those tapes. good to have you with us and your rehabilitation to adams release? >> it's what i expected and have been saying since the outset of this business four days ago. the evidence in the tapes - and i don't know precisely what evidence they are talking about because i haven't been made privy as to which interviews were used in the interrogation of mr adams. the oral history, they are what is called hearsay evidence. and these are recollections of event that happened over 40 years ago. can you remember what you were doing, what you said, who you met in december 1972. i can't. so a core would be very, very wary about using -- court would be wary about using such evidence unless there was fingerprint evidence or mr adams had confessed and owned up to doing this stuff. without that it will be difficult to sustain a charge. there's of course - and i think this is a reason why the case has been referred to the public prosecution service - there's

cofounder, ed maloney says the reach does not rise to the legal standard required. >> oral history, legally it's what is called hearsay evidence. these are recollections of events that happened 40 years ago can you remember what you were doing, what you said, who you met in december 1972? i can't. so a court would be wary about using such evidence unless there was other evidence from elsewhere, such as fingerprint evidence or if there was a confession and owning up. without that it would be difficult to sustain a charge. >> they expected that adams would be released without charge. >> south korea's president says her heart breaks for the families who lost children. park geun-hye visited families close to the site. divers are searching for 50 people. 200 bodies have been recovered. park geun-hye went out to see. the ferry carried mostly high school student on a field trip when it went down. 174 passengers survived. >>> a stop bridge under construction collapsed in china. 11 were kill. rescuers pulled 26 peep out of the rubble, most instruction workers. the bridge in the village was built ill

. >>> co-founder of the boston college belfast projects, the oral history of the troubles, ed maloney. welcome. >> hello, yes. >> do you think gerry adams gave the are direction to kill this woman? >> i wasn't present when the ira credit leadership decided to do this to her. but the people who i have talked to, incidentally, it's very important that you should understand and realize this story predates the boston college archive by at least a decade or so. i wrote about this story in 2000. 2002, in a book called the secret history of the ira, when i read that jean mcconville had been an deducted by a special unit of the ira under the control of gerry dooms. aadams. it's only in recent years that they have shown any interest no. solving the mcconville murder. something to do with the fact that during the interim, the fact that there are elements of the police who dislike gerry adams and saw this as an opportunity to go for him seize they had chance to do him damage so -- >> let me just go back to my question though just for a second. i understand all that. but do you actually believe t

guys like ed maloney who wrote the secret history of the i.r.a., involved with this project at boston college, these guys say of course he was. he was in the army council and all these things. but you know, the thing about this murder, you have 3,600 people murdered up until around 2000. stray murders here and there. what is really horrifying about the jean mcconville murder is just the circumstances of it. one person's murdered and again, 3,600 people. you have a woman who is the sole caregiver of ten children. she's beaten up the night before her abduction, beaten bloody and she's come home the next day. she's accused of ratting on the i.r.a. to the british forces. they come back the second day and grab her in front of her children. and her son said to the belfast telegraph she was squealing as they dragged her out and these ten children said we don't know what's going to happen to her. they were all put in foster care. she was never seen again. the i.r.a. admitted complicity in 199. the body was found. she was shot in the head and buried -- >> there's something -- >> something part

maloney. also we have kathleen parker, columnist and jamal buee a writer for slate.com. congressman, i want to start with you because you signed this letter. 12 members of congress sign edsted in what you're trying to do here. when i was applying to college, everybody was looking at the u.s. news rankings. i remember my school reading about the extraordinary efforts they would take to raise their rankings to try to rise. this is such a thing that colleges care so deeply about. can you tell us what specifically you want to incorporate sexual assault into these rankings. how would you incorporate that into these rankings that come out every year? >> i would like to see the colleges be responsible not just for identifying the amount of rape that occurs and to allow there to be the kind of anonymous reporting including sort of surveying the school to see how much might be there. but the key is to be able to have some kind of a standard that will allow the schools to be judged on how they are performing across the board. >> we're talking about 55 names were named this week, 55 colleges and universities. when you start looking at the statistics and you look at the importance,