kind of -- >> they want walter white. >> they want walter white. >> rose: they obviously want francis underwood. >> rose: is this the last year of "house of cards in? >> i hope not. >> rose: you really don't? >> i'm having the time of my life. let me tell you, if there was any dream situation where i would have done a television series and had the kind of collaborative experience i've had with all of our creators and directors that have come on-- and the cast is just extraordinary. it's so much fun because i'm heavily involved in it. i feel, you know, we all grap welit and we talk about it and we discuss it and bo comes up withap idea and i have an idea and he goes away a week later and says your idea is terrible but that led me to this idea this led to this-- it's an a journey we're all on, and the funnest part is there is so much i don't been francis, so much i have to learn about this man. we may reveal it. we may not. but every time i get a script, i'm like, oh, wow, this is interesting. >> rose: what is it he shares request richard iii? >> obviously, they're both stories about the nature o

that's francis underwood. they're all scared of him. to you about it? >> well, i heard that president obama likes the show. i think he said something about he wished washington were as ruthlessly pragmatic as it is the in the show. [ impersonating bill clinton ] but i'll tell you who loves that show. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i love that "house of cards." [ laughter ] 99% of what they do on that show is real. [ laughter ] and the 1% they got wrong is you could never get an education bill passed that fast. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: more with kevin spacey when we get back everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ a big, big love ♪ gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ a big, big love ♪ ♪ man: we know when parents and teachers work together... woman: our schools get stronger. man: as superintendent of public education, that's been tom torlakson's approach. woman: torlakson has supported legislation to guarantee spending decisions about our education tax dollars are made by parents, teachers and the local community..