madeleine cohen, thank you for being with us. i appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me on the show, rachel. >> so the governor today order what had she called an independent review of execution procedures to be led by the state's public safety commissioner. she says the planned execution of your client will not go through, until that review is completed. what's your reaction to hearing about this review? >> my first reaction to hearing about the review is that there's nothing independent about it. the review will apparently be conducted by a member of governor fallin's cabinet, along with the assistance of the attorney, who also works for her and has a pretty strong interest in clearing the department of any misconduct or other problems, in connection with this botched execution. a really independent investigation would be conducted by a third party, truly independent entity. and that's what needs to happen here. >> why has there been such chaos and confusion over the means by which the state wants to execute your client?

madeleine cohen, thank you for joining us.rfectly clear about clayton lockett, he was a seriously bad dude, no matter how we feel about execution. did his botched execution amount to torture? let's talk with dr. kaplan, first, try to convince me that i should care about either of these two individuals. >> i don't care much about them. what i want you to care about is if the state is going to kill people it has to do it without torturing people. in other words, as strange as it may seem, michael, the ethical issue about letting these guys suffer is not oh, that we're so concerned about somebody who buried alive the 11-year-old is that the dignity of us killing them, we don't torture people, we just eliminate them. and if we can't do it in a humane way, we can't do it without them suffering, it's us that has a problem. >> okay, we clearly can get it done though. where is jack kevorkian. we have three states now with lawful assisted suicides. >> we have medicines. >> this is strange too. you think about the death penalty, we went

madeleine cohen is a defense lawyer for charles warner, the inmate whose execution is postponed. , it's been a tu multiuous 48 hours. thank you for being with us. how is your client, charles warner, given what happened with locket? >> thanks for having me on. i'm still trying to get a phone call set up for mr. warner, i was traveling all day yesterday and the prison hasn't quite gotten the call completed yet but i hope to speak to him today. >> what do you want to know from the state about the procedures used on locket and what they are prepared to do should the execution be rescheduled and go forward? >> before any execution can go forward in oklahoma, we have to have full transparency on the process and truly independent investigation into what went wrong on tuesday night. not an investigation conducted by the governor's own people, the department of public safety and the attorney general. and we also need an an independent autopsy, including one by a pathologist that we can know there's objectivity in the process. and you know, since the end of february, we have been asking for