the national da associations serving as state director for the executive working group here with a nagg our panels include three experts in the field of community police, george kelling. george, where are you? george kelling, codevelop of the broken windows theory, senior fellow at the manhattan institute and professor at the kennedy school of government at rutgers university. tom tyler is a professor at yale law school. tom? okay, very good. and robert tracy, chief of crime control strategies for the chicago police department has stepped in for his boss, and please join me in welcoming these panelists. [applause] >> okay, we will take a five minute break, set up the chairs for the panelists. and five minutes. we will ring the bell. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> this is a two-day conference on crime reduction, hosted by the national association of attorneys general and the district attorneys association as well. moment ago they heard from attorney general eric holder. on capitol hill for senate and house are in this week. the senate coming in today at 2 p.m. eas