. >> host: well, we also want to bring to the table brendan sasso of the national journal who's participating in our conversation this week. >> thanks for having me on, peter. commissioner, the fcc's been in the news the last couple weeks, more so than maybe it's used to, and that's mainly about this net neutrality proposal. the old rules were struck down earlier this year, and chairman wheeler is pushing a proposal that would still bar isps from blocking web sites but would allow these fast lanes in some cases. what do you think of that proposal and how are you going to vote next week? >> guest: so i don't want to get too specific because i'm precluded from doing so, so i'll give you my general views, and hopefully that'll give some guidance to your answer. i worry when people use the phrase "fast lane," because that implies that there's a slow lane. i worry on the net neutrallyish sure, and it goes back to my -- neutrality issue. chairman wheeler has highlighted he plans to use a provision known as section 706 which was brought forward in the court case in the d.c. circuit, and he plans to

. >> host: we also want to bring to the table the national journal participating. >> guest: thank you for having me on. commissioner, the fcc has been in the news last couple of weeks more so than used to. that neutrality proposals. the old rules are struck down. the chairman is pushing a proposal that was still our eyepiece from blocking website. what do you think of that proposal. >> i don't want to get too specific. in general i hope they give you some guidance. if i worry when people use the phrase. i worry on that that the quality issue. it goes back to my guiding principles. my good friend has highlighted a provision known as section 706 which was brought forward as part of the court case. the d.c. circuit sanction. actually worked on that provision as a congressional staffer. at to get past that hurdle. it's a big one for me. but then i get to the question of is there a problem that we are solving? nt there is in. there have been incidents amount prospective problems. what could be the harm for the future? but they don't actually have any instances today. providing a good exper

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ron fournier also with us there from "national journal." gentlemen, thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: new fallout from the keystone xl pipeline delay with energy companies looking for other ways to transport oil. what rail companies are agreeing to after a fiery train derailment. we're live with the story on that. >>> could a senior white house advisor be in legal trouble over his benghazi email? we'll talk about that with the judge next. book any flight or hotel and if you find it for less we'll match it and give you fifty dollars back that's the expedia guarantee jon: "fox business alert" now. the delay of the key disown xl pipeline causing a ripple effect causing energy companies to rely on other ways to transport oil but those ways are not always safe. just yesterday oil tanker cars derailed and caught fire in virginia. this comes as the rail industry is agreeing to new voluntary regulations to make it safer to ship crude oil by rail. fox business correspondent rich edson in washington with more. rich? >> reporter: jon, government figures show march of this year to last feb

a new national journal article shows how they plan to do it.ng to the journal the counter attack will include a direct punch at challengers that are fueled by slick opposition research and aggressive campaign to boost party favorites and most importantly, loads and loads of cash. he worked for texas governor rick perry's presidential campaign in south carolina, and national journal political editor josh crashour co-wrote the aforementioned article. i want to start with you, josh. what are republicans doing to actually try and fight back against the tea party? >> first they realized the political stakes are very high as far as the battle for the senate goes. you know, the senate is within reach, but they also know that they lost as many as five senate seats in the last two elections because of weaker usually more conservative candidates that were out of the mainstream. what they're doing is they're playing a role in these primaries, these -- a lot of times not a lot of voters show up in these spring and summer primaries, but they're spending mil

"national journal" just reported yet they're going to aheave their goal by mid 2015. >> takes 183 days to transfer from -- 183 days -- >> 355 in nevada. 3 5. >> i want to share with you the president's 2008 campaign pledge. in his own words, to ask you a question about not having achieved -- watch president, candidate obama in 2008. >> we must also stand up for affordable health care for every single veteran. that's why i pledge to build a 21st century va. we need to cut through the red tape. every service member coushould electronic copies of service and medical records upon discharge. >> it's 2014 and none of that's happened. >> well, what has happened, you know, putting things into context, can you imagine if we were sitting here at the end of the bush era, what you would be saying about a system still in paper? you could not believe it, correct? >> i wrote a book on it called "paper kills." i'm with you. >> shinseki said, this is what i'm going to do, you know what, they're doing it. i think much of the blame rests with -- >> nobody talks to anybody. have i this backlogged group i

following johnson, the piece for the "national journal." guest: i think that is going to continue no matter what the president does on this administrative review. the republicans have used this line over and over again about how they do not want to pass anything when they do not trust the president to enforce the laws we have. the kinds of things the white house are doing are well within their administrative capacity. thes the purview of department of homeland security only to figure out how we enforce the immigration laws. think about the number of people who go speeding on the highway or parking places they are not supposed to part. -- supposed to park. it would require a tremendous amount of law enforcement to prosecute all of those people. this is something the administration can figure out how to do. they need to tweak it for the sake of people who have been affected by it. just how far they are going to go is the real question. i think no matter what the administration does, the republicans do not trust the president. it does not have

nrarating a plus, national journal said i had most conservative voting record no the race. think, in reality conservative branch of party did well, i am working hard to make sure we keep it in the family, so to speak. i would say that georgia tea party, conservative. branch of republican party is in great shape. lou: and tea party supporting you? you -- maybe far more important than that, you have hershal walker on your side. >> you know. hershal walker is a guy that everyone in georgia loves, everyone in -- i think america loves hershal walker, i am proud we have newt gingrich. and eric erickson, and karen handle, and we have very solid conservatives who have come to our side, we're delighted to be working with them. lou: chamber of commerce. i've been saying to the republican party som for some t, you better start talking about people who are doing the work, small, men and women who work arfor a living, middle class, yu being supported by chamber does not mean you will forget those folks. >> i am proud to have the chamber's endorsement, they are number one jobs advocate i

rick grenell and michelle cottle, senior writer for the national journal. what do you make of arthur sulzberger getting killed in the press yesterday? >> they bungled it and completely and absolutely. they reason they had to put it out on saturday because all the sun shows are going to be talking about how "the new york times" really bungled it. the problem is it's peak that -- pathetic he had to attack jill after shoving her out the door. >> they spent a lot of ink, though, on this equal pay issue, and now it turns out that there wasn't equal pay even though the times says there was, and they look like hip owe credits. the coverage was weighted heavily in the equal pay issue. >> we can talk about this story all day. i think it's fantastic. to have the publisher of the "new york times" complaining about mainstream media coverage is fantastic. i mean, here this is the -- >> try to restrain yourself. >> this is the team that created the mainstream media tactic of bullying. i disagree with lauren completely. the simple fact is that there was one source in the

week, jay carney tried his hardest to explain away the new email evidence on benghazi but the national journal found his excuses embarrassing. >> i think when you get caught spinning like this, when you get caught being incredible with information you are giving to the public, that's a big thing when it comes to the issues. it was painful yesterday to watch that briefing and get baghdad bob flashbacks. it was embarrassing. >> he thinks it's time for the white house press corps to get tougher on the white house and the administration. not just on benghazi but other things. don't let the white house set the ground rules. don't worry about relationships. don't go to the briefings. cover the white house -- cover the how does from outside in. don't go to the white house briefings. go to the correspondents dinner. >> the spirit of the correspondents dinner is to climb over each other. >> you did that. >> i'll never do it again. expect the president -- the press to a-- the press reflects obama, he's the mirror. the white house is going to -- white house press is going to change their tune and when th

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i'm joined by james kit field, a contributing editor to the national journal and wrote a cover story "the war after the war - inside america's shadow war on terror and why it will neverened", amongst others. in an interview, when the predecessor took over from robert muller, he thought the threat from al qaeda had diminished but he underestimate it and how they had metastasized to include yemen, east africa and other areas, do you agree? >> i do agree. the narrative now is different. when you thought the combination of the top al qaeda leadership, the arab spring gave a counter narrative to osama bin laden's call for a jihad against the local authorities. that was the only way to achieve change in the middle east. it's a different landscape now. the affiliates proliferated. they sank roots in syria, yemen, marley and are thinking about regional operations as we saw with the westgate mall attack in kenya, and a worry with foreign fighters flocking to the flag in syria, that when they come home, more than 1,000 in egypt. them. >> you wrote that president obama wants deeply to convince

you have very few people who really need to think about -- the national journal does this that shows howic members of congress rate on a s cale. if you can imagine that, democrats go from very liberal to middle. it used to be that they were here and they would overlap. you have liberal, republicans more liberal. there is a considerable overlap. today, that is no longer true. the most conservative democrat is still more liberal than the most liberal republican. people just do not need to do that. the biggest challenge, especially in the house -- the biggest challenge that a republican will face is from somebody more conservative than them. in almost every district, that is the case. they are worried about being challenged from the right. how is it in their interest to reach across and compromise? we have gotten a system that we designed. districts,ated the i'm not sure that these people realized exactly how profound implications would be. i would also add that some democrats, especially minorities, have been in on this too. there have been some states where african-americans want to b

. >> and joining us our political panel, abc news political director rick klein, the national journal'sforeign yea and chief political correspondent byron york. rick, how long does secretary shinseki last or does he? >> we are counting hours at this stage rather than days. jay carney from the white house podium was as clear as he can be be in saying that this is a guy who is on borrowed time right now. i'm surprised that he still has a job right now. you have this extraordinary scene where members of congress are flocking to issue statements to get him to resign more than 100, a quarter of them democrats saying that he has lost confidence and he should go or be fired. i think this is just an indication of where the president is headed at. get a report back from shinseki before he makes a move. it can't be long now. >> ron, i keep hearing people like press secretary carney say we have got to wait for the report. i mean, that is like the last thing i would say because waiting is what sort of got us, you know, forcing these vets to wait. this may be the time to make -- to fire now and ask

joining me here in washington, d.c., from "the national journal" and "e!" correspondent alicia quarles. good to know i'm not the only one who can't get a ticket. >> i had a ticket. i left there. >> let's talk about president obama because as savannah guthrie just said there, he has gotten really good at this thing by now. this is a little bit of his act from last year. >> of course, even after i've done all this, some folks still don't think i spend enough time with congress. why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell, they ask? really? why don't you get a drink with mitch mcconnell? i know republicans are still sorting out what happened in 2012, but one thing they all agree on is they need to do a better job reaching out to minorities. and look, call me self-centered, but i can think of one minority they could start with. hello? >> here's the thing. we know that a lot of this is written by speechwriters, but you can tell that president obama has a hand in not just the writing but the delivery, the execution, the timing of it as well. >> oh, totally. yo

joining us our political panel abc political director rick klein, kirsten powers and national journaln foreign foreign yea. are they going to cooperate. >> seen what the response ask going to be. folks on capitol hill are not even sure if they are going to appoint the members they are entitled to. >> i mean, even if they say they are going to cooperate. they have subpoenaed the document to the congress of the emails ben rhodes, that wasn't provided court order a month ago. 19 months into this. doesn't that show a history ofbr8> >> that's why they are getting a special committee now. they have to balance it from the hill perspective they have to decide do they want to will he mize this panel at all. some republicans would like to have democrats interested in investigating. get them on the panel as well or do they want to sit this one out? from the white house perspective how much do you comply with a new investigation when you have done some compliance with previous ones? >> some compliance? >> some complinsz. >> maybe they should comply. i look at this two ways to look at this. one is

. >> piece in the "national journal" weighing in. ron fournier sees this as deeper issue with the obama presidency. he writes in quote, launch affordable care act and worsening conditions at department of veterans affairs are emblematic of obama's inattention to governing. he is slow to fire poor serving cab bet members. to mr. obama, transparency is a mere talking point. kirsten, ouch, members of his own party are turning against him as the scandal widens. >> this is not something he can write off and me they don't like me. i think that ron fournier definitely hit the nail on the head this is a much bigger problem with obama. this is something we see time and time again. i think it is worse for him, as much as we can say look, the va has been a problem for a long time under republican presidents, president came in as somebody who was saying government's the solution and really saying we can look to the government and we can fix problems. the fact he hasn't been able to make progress, in fact you could argue it has gotten worse on hi

monica wehby candidacy is funded substantially by this guy, he just got a big splashy spread in "national journal" magazine as the future of super pacs. this is him apparently posing with models on a hay bale from an out of take of an video posted at his winery website showing himself -- it's a parody of that robin -- i don't know -- it's just -- anyway -- ♪ okay, his name is john jordan. he runs a winery. very rich guy, conservative guy, republican donor and he lives in california. he doesn't live in oregon, doesn't appear to very any connection to oregon. what so doing weighing in with huge bucket loads of money in the senate race? oregon republican politics, turns out, they're just kind of like that because on the other side, the guy was running against monica wehby in tomorrow's primary a day named jason conger has his own random out of state disinterested surveillancian their helping them, as well, the pac funder on the other side tomorrow is a hedge fund guy from new york who has decided that the outcome of the oregon republican senate primary is apparently worst some of his hedge fund buck

i'm still joined by sebastian younger and joining us at the table, national journal. trying to vamp a little bit there. so joan, shinseki resigned, but from a token perspective, he's out, but now what is the question? >> i think this is a time that would be nice to see the old fashioned bipartisanism that we used to hear about. i mean this has been a problem on a lot of people's watch. he does have to fix it and we're already hearing some calls for more privatization, there's some worrisome ways this can be politici politicized but i think i was sad to see him go. i'm sure it was the right decision. the president made it, but as the person who warned us what was going to happen in iraq, to be taking the fall for this mess was a little ironic and a little painful. >> it was very painful. although i would say, as i was saying during the break, i would like to see the president take some action, let's get a thousand doctors out there volunteering to take care of the backlogs. your colleagues have written some suggestions. let's just increase the budget, to me that sounds

100% with national rights for life. 100% with national federation of independent businesses, national journalave the most conservative record of anyone in the race. it's, you know how it is, >> i don't endorse liberals, jack. >> yes. well you did not in this case we've been fighting like dickens throughout the state taking every hand we can we do feel good about it. >> we're going to watch the race closely the runoff is in july we're going to follow that closely. congressman, good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> sean, thank you very much for your friendship and for your help. >> i hope you join that conservative coalition in the u.s. senate. we're going to need you there. polls about to close in the states of oregon and idaho. stay with us for continuing coverage. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "limit your hard earned cash back" card . it's not the "confused by rotating categories" card. it's the no-category-gaming, no-look-passing, clear-the-lane-i'm- going-up-strong, backboard-breaking, cash back card. this is the quicksilver cash back card from

a fox news contributor and former bush administration program and sign your writer for the "national journal." what do you make of sulzberger getting killed in the press. >> they bungled it. the reason they had to put something out on saturday was because of all the sunday shows who will talk about how "new york times" really bungled it. the problem is it is pathetic he had to attack jail, the woman he shoved out the door. >> pathetic because of what -- he is defending himself against a lost coverage that was favorable to abramson? >> they spent a lot of ink on the equal pay issue. now, it turns out there wasn't equal pay although "new york times" says there was. they look hike hypocrites. >> the coverage has been weighted toward the equal pay issue and that is not the only issue no matter the interpretation you buy in the dismissal. >> we can talk about this all day. it is fan tass stick to have the publisher of "new york times" complaining about mainstream media coverage is fantastic. this --. >> try to restrain yourself. >> this is the team that created the tactic of bullying by the mains

. >> it's interesting because there's a piece in the national journal that talks about the party in kentucky no longer really being the mcconnell party. how it's moving more towards rand paul. mcconnell really relying in a lot of ways on rand paul to shore up his party and inoculate him. to what extent do you think the people coming out today are rand paul type voters? would the rand paul voter in your estimation be a mcconnell voter? >> there definitely is a sense that mcconnell was almost hiding behind rand paul. i was down here earlier this year and saw them do an event together. there have been all of these points along the line, mcconnell had hired rand paul's former campaign manager to run his own campaign. but at the same time a lot of those rand paul voters are sort of libertarians here. there's this streak of anti-government. they're sort of fed up with washington generally. but at the same time it's not clear that there are going to be voters that jump to grimes. republicans will tell you that's what you're seeing in this polling now where grimes is so close to mcconnell. the quest

griff jenkins spoke with millennials at a washington event sponsored by the national journal and the atlantic. >> there is this overwhelming assumption that millennials are narcissists that we only care about ourselves. millennials do care about giving back. millennials do care about volunteerism and flan pay, i believe that needs to be part of the national narrative. >> we have a strong sense of nationalism and community either serving the country abroad or serving your local community and serving on a school board. there is a great engagement level by the millennial generation and i hope to see the benefits of that in the coming years. >> they have been called the most domestic violence diverse generation in history and certainly the most wired. having come of age two wars and recession and debotched healthcare rollout they are skeptical of their government. group they call the millennials. >> we see a common frustration that we feel and that we see is reflected in so many parts of the country. >> congresswoman gabar. >> it is a democrat from ohio. >> people are not building those

week jay carney tried his hardest to explain away the new e-mailin evidence on benghae but the national journaluse, quote, embarrassing. >> i think when you get caught spinning like this, caught beint incredible with information given to the public, that's aa big g thing. that's why she's into other issues. as someone who admired andpu worked with jay and wants my white house to succeed, it was painful yesterday to watch that briefing and get baghdad bob flashbacks. >> hee thinks it's time for the press corps to get tougher on carney and others on theime administration. not just on benghazi, but lots of things. he's got five recommendations. he says don't let the white house set the ground rules. don't worry about personal relationships with administration officials.hite don't go to the briefings. interesting. cover the administration from the outside in and go to the correspondents dinner, which is tomorrow night, to gather information the public should know. which i thought was against the spirit of the white house correspondents dinner. at least what it used to be. it used to be a place wher

the national journal has a fascinating article that sets the timeline for problems at the va really backo the kennedy administration. it says that essentially, the current administration made it easier for veterans to get compensation for post-traumatic stress disorder and exposure to agent orange. the vietnam war era defoliant tied to a list of neurological disorders. they weren't matched by the va reforms needed to adequately address the new claims. agent orange alone took up 37% of the veterans benefits resources nationally from october 2010 to march of 2012. according to the gao. essentially, are what we're looking at is a bottleneck between a lot of vietnam veterans retiring and needing additional care because they're getting older, and veterans from the iraq and afghanistan war? >> it's both. soldiers have been griping since valley forge. this issue goes back quite a ways, too. right now what the va has got is the demographic crunch. it's got the median age of the veteran sitting at 64. so more than half of its population is retirement age. then it's got a ton of demand coming from

jon: james only fan of "national journal" has a piece just out of media manipulation i guess if you willwhite house. it is titled "progressive bloggers are doing the white house's job." and, he goes on, i'm sorry, he goes on to write there, he says, it's been a familiar pattern since president obama took office in 2009. when critics attack the white house can count on posse of progress sieve writers to ride to the rescue. affordable care act, ukraine, controversies involving the internal revenue service and benghazi, same voices again and again on the web and twitter, giving the president cover while savaging the opposition. judy, he suggests this is, this is a technique or a method, not available really to previous presidents. jenna: well i think the -- >> i think the explosion of social media does precisely that. it creates a kind of echo chamber to reinforce the administration view. which is why the fact that this administration which pledged such transparency has a hands on, micromanagement of both policy and media manipulation that you have to ask yourself, when are the mainstream m

let's get started with alex sikz-wall, political correspondent at the national journal. the kentucky race is the most important in my mind. it seems pretty clear, and it seems like it's almost always been clear that mitch mcconnell will win that one, but has he been damaged by his battle against matt beveragen in a way that will help -- >> it's possible. he moved a little bit to the right to shore up his right flank. really i think he has to give matt beveragin a big slap on the back for imploding and doing the work of defeating himself himself. you know, beveragin ran from the right and accused mcconnell of supporting tarp. that was a big talking point, and then it later came out that that actually matt beveragin suspected tarp as well. that didn't really work out for him. >> mitch mcconnell is spilling over into the race in georgia. let's take a listen to what some of the primary candidates there on the gop side had to say about whether they would support mitch mcconnell for leadership position. >> if you were sxlektd if he is re-elected, will you support mitch mcconne

. >> mercedes, this is what was in the national journal friday. benghazi every 12 seconds. not every 12 days or 12 minutes, but every 12 seconds. we should know that msnbc nor nbc news has been able to verify whether that's actually true. >> that's a lot. >> yeah. >> i thought they were, you know, tweeting about the white house correspondence dinner, not bengha benghazi. >> tonight hopefully. but seriously, what is it? is it about a legitimate search for the truth or more red meat for the base? >> i think it's both. you look at over 60% of americans want congress to further investigate on benghazi. there are these questions about -- >> i have seen that poll, by the way. >> i'm happy to send you -- it was a fox news poll. >> oh, okay. >> but wait a second. the democrats, it was over 50% of the democrats in that poll agreed that there should be further investigation. independents, large majority. republicans, over 80%. not surprised about that. there is that note that there is new evidence. the fact that the state department did not give any of thes

joining me now is former democratic governor from montana and national journal's michelle coddle. thank you both for joining me. >> thanks, rev. >> good to be back, rev. >> governor, let me go to you first. what do you think, has the gop establishment sold its soul to become more and more like the tea party? >> well, the gop establishment created the tea party. theys a tro turfed this. koch money came out and they focused on some of these people who are republicans, but to the right of the republican mainstream, and so they got all these people organized and they got them boiling tea and they got them talking about being against the government and spending and they got stronger and stronger and stronger, and now they are just a bunch of crack pots, but that is now the center of the republican party. >> you know, michelle, i mention tom cotton, a republican, right? he won the senate nomination in arkansas. now, earlier this month he said the president is anticonstitutional. listen to this. >> i want to discuss the anticonstitutional excesses of the obama administration. the prefix

the national journal headline saying this, republicans forcing lundergan grimes to choose.supporting the energy industry at home while accepting donations from liberal and environmental groups? >> i don't think so because people who are on the environmental side of the ledger, and i count myself as one of them, a lot of allyson's donors are strong environmentalists, they know she's a lot better than mitch mcconnell. they know in that particular case the issue is not whether it's allyson grimes or mitch mcconnell, it's whether republicans control the senate and mitch mcconnell is their leader. that is a devastating scenario for environmentalists. ultimately as many tea party people will vote for mitch though they're not for him, the environmentalists will vote for allyson because they understand the contrast. >> i want to talk about your environment, your voice and the derby. that's the environment. >> it is. >> a lot of good energy there. california chrome favored in the race. i'm not going to hide my bias, my friend. i'm from the golden state. where are you putting your mo

the national journal ronald foreign yea. and chief political correspondent byron york. rick, first to you, secretary kerry talking in mexico. what do you think? >> i think ambassador bolton right pointing out major escalation for the secretary of state to acknowledge through the state department that they are these conversations. i wouldn't expect him to put a lot of detail behind that. and i think that's going to be part of a complicated diplomatic. can you imagine what the conversation is going to be on the other side if this was a mexican in our judicial system. the conversation is started. i think that's significant. if the secretary of state is talking about it, it means that those conversations will continue and we know where the u.s. comes down on this. >> but you don't you think that it's amazing that it's been six weeks before you have a high level u.s. protest about this in the state department says they visited him 11 times in prison. that's good. but, six weeks with this american held for apparently no reason? we haven't protested? >> although we don't know

according to virtually every poll that i have seen, including the latest national journal poll on the subject, 76% of the american people do not want to cut social security at all, something at issue that you and i were involved in. do not want to cut social security. they sure, sure as heck do not want to repeal social security. so when you see the ads on television being paid for by the koch brothers, understand where they are coming from in terms of social security. now let me give you another quote. and this is an exact quote from the 1980 platform of the libertarian party, david koch, vice presidential candidate. quote -- "we favor the abolition of medicaid -- of medicare and medicaid." abolition. what does that mean? it means that if you are a senior citizen, 70 years of age, not feeling well, and you go to the doctor, the doctor diagnoses you with cancer. you're not going to have medicare there for you. and if you don't have a lot of money, how are you going to get the health care that you need? you know what? you may not. because according to the koch brothers, the federal gov

and journalist and author ronald brownstein is editorial director for media and columnist for national journallcome to you. i read the words of chief justice earl warren in the browne browne decision brown v board of education "it is doubtful any child could be expected to succeed in life if denied an education. such an opportunity where the state is undertake ton provide it is a right which must be made available to all on equal terms. catherine lhamon, 60 years later, the majority of all large school districts in america are majority non-white. have we fulfilled that promise? >> we've come far but not far enough. that's the depressing reality that has to light a fire under all of us and certainly under me and the work that i do and we need to be working to deliver on that promise. but there are so many things that are different that are better in the 60 years since brown was decided. my mother was 10 when brown vs. board of education decided. he attended racially segregated schools before and after. but it changed her life experience. i didn't attend segregated schools and my children don't

the national journal looked into this, and in this session, house committees on energy and science haveearings on space exploration, including discussions of extra tress yal life but just seven hearings to discuss climate change. the record isn't any better in the senate, but a session on climate change probably wouldn't include this question from republican chris collins from new york. >> i think i might ask the question everyone in this room wants to ask, have you watched "ancient aliens" and what's your comment about that series? >> hard at work over there. >>> up next, bobby jindal says he will sign a new republican bill in louisiana that will restrict women's health rights and affect more than just his state. that's straight ahead. nnouncer ] since we began, mercedes-benz has pioneered many breakthroughs. ♪ breakthroughs in design... breakthroughs in safety... in engineering... and technology. and now our latest creation breaks one more barrier. presenting the cla. starting at $29,900. ♪ does it end after you've expanded your business?? after your company's gone public? and the cap

meanwhile, ron fournier of "the national journal." the typical white house reporter considers the president's team the most secretive in memory stingier with information than the tightlipped bush white house. according to a clinical survey prone to lies. the press corps is also relatively inexperienced, with 39% on the beat and five years or less. it is a couple of recommendations. first, don't let the white house at the ground rules. second, don't worry about rough coverage hurting relationships of access. actually, it helps. we'll go to white house briefings, they are a waste of time. the secretary really makes news. and, use the dinner to the public's advantage. for my first decade or so in washington, the dinner was a useful way to build relationships with potential sources. the full story is available online at "national journal.com." what is the congress doing to move this country forward? all i can hear on the radio is that -- the people are tired. they really want to move forward. caller: the only americans that have been kill

. >> i want to bring in national journal correspondent , lahe izadi as well as e.j.dionne.d what is the political calculation for a potential presidential candidate? >> well, if you look at the polling around climate change, and specifically of the voters who identify as republican or lean republican, a ma jjority o them either they don't believe that the climate change is happening or they don't believe it is a major concern. if you look -- >> so no risk, essentially? >> sorry? >> no risk sense shall for the a republican in saying what marco rubio is saying. >> true. and the reverse is true in a primary facing a huge slate of republican candidates who are trying to position themselves, and we know that the more con e ser vative voters will come out in the primaries and more activity, so it is endear yourselves to the voters. and remember that marco rubio used to be a conservative hero and darling and now that he has pushed in immigration reform and working with the democrats, he has lost some clout. so it is not at all surprising that he has made the comments over the week

the national journal laid out the difference today. no one on the exchanges is buying insurance from the government. the government doesn't employ doctors or decide how much they'll get paid or require them to accept any of the insurance plans sold through the exchanges. obamacare is not a health care system. the va is. so why do those on the right pretend the va problems have to do or are similar in some way to the health care law, goldie? >> you know, reverend sharpton, the fact of the matter is the issues happening today with the va have existed for a decade or even more. when veterans like myself were denied care or delayed care or got care that was substandard care. but that isn't true for all veterans. for some veterans the va system is perfectly fine. for too many politicians and pundits alike, this tragedy is like gameday. they want to put as many players on the field and get as much field advantage as they possibly can and that means ringing up points on the board. that means using it for right wing radio talking points. that

the national journal looked into this, and in this session, house committees on energy and science havet 19 hearings on space exploration, including discussions of extraterrestrial life but just seven hearings to discuss climate change. the record isn't any better in the senate, but a session on climate change probably wouldn't include this question from republican chris collins from new york. >> i think i might ask the question everyone in this room wants to ask, have you watched "ancient aliens" and what's your comment about that series? >> hard at work over there. >>> up next, bobby jindal says he will sign a new republican bill in louisiana that will restrict women's health rights and affect more than just his state. that's straight ahead. . which is funny, because i still do it better than her. [ afi ] i do not like sweeping. it's a little frustrating. [ zach ] i can't help out as much as i used to. do you need help? let's open it up. [ afi ] it's a swiffer sweeper. [ zach ] it's a swiffer dusters. it can extend so i don't have to get on the step stool. ♪ it's like a dirt magnet --

so the bookings institution did a really good job on this graphics they created out of the national journale ratings that they do every year. they ran all the way back to the civil war. so we're going to start in 1941-42, right in the middle of world war two. the reason you see a lot of mixing here. these dots you see on the screen, they represent individual members of congress and how they vote. over on the blue side is more liberal, over on the right is more conservative and the higher up you go is the more orthodox they voted whether conservative or liberal and voted together as a party. you see a lot of people mixing and a lot going further down the line. that only moves 20 years later to 1963-64 when the civil rights legislation passed you start to see some divide. but you still see some mixing. people talking about lyndon johnson being able to get civil rights through because he was southern democrat and was able to get some of the southern democrats over. move ahead to the 1980's, and you see people talking about social security reform, they're able to do so much on that. and that's