if you think that 82% of russia's extra ref notions depend upon hydro car bons, russia is desperate to find another market. china is a natural answer. so, it is important but it has a strategic value as well. c value as well. >> professor, is it possible to overthink this? i mean, china needed something. russia has it, and it may be we are making a mistake in overreading this? >> i think it is much bigger than normal business deal. if it was business deal, it would not sign as a high-profile deal. there are a lot of questions about if he would reach the deal. why they reached that deal? both countries feel they have to reach this deal at this strategic moment. >> for russia, as mentioned earlier, they had not a lot of problems. on china's side, in fact, china, at this time, they need russia on their side because they have so many problems with the united states. the balance to asia pacific, japan, vietnam, philippines under territory y'all disputes in the east china sea and now, the indictment of officers. the chinese president thought the u.s. now is fighting a war with china. china h

you can't lay it on russia.ithout disregarding the internal tensions within a profoundly divided and country with years, decades of administration. >> a quick response before we go, andreas. >> well, ukraine is a plural society. it is not a monoethnic society. it is not deeply divided country. it has had, of course, always the separatists, but we have never seen anything like this particular kind of aggression and i do think that this is mainly coming from outside. we had, over the years in ukraine, again and again demonstrations and we had in 1990 the revolution in kiev. in 2004 the orange revolution, knew the euro maydan. this is domestic. what is happening in eastern ukraine and is now happening also in southern ukraine is clearly coming from outside. >> thank you all. that brinks us to the end of this ed -- brings us to the end of this edition of "inside story." thanks for being with us. in washington, i'm ray suarez. >> on "america tonight," the tipping point. more clashes and bloodshed in ukraine. the elev

the most gorgeous women are in russia. welcome to russia. kind of sober. united we stand. >> i prepared the special for you. russian tapas. specially for vodka drinking. with small pancakes like blinis then caviar. this looks like winter. salted cucumber with honey. this is baltic sprouts smoked one with beet root. and this is a muksun. this is a whitefish. whitefish frozen and you can eat it raw. >> thank you. i'm hitting the caviar and the blini. >> maybe some more vodka. >> thank you. >> what do you think? what is the perception of mr. putin these days? after 14 years he's in power. >> my perception? you really want to hear it? >> i'm not sure, but let's see. >> a former midlevel manager in a large corporation, short, i think that's very important. short. who has found himself master of the universe. and like a lot of short people, if you piss them off bad things happen to you. he likes to take his shirt off a lot. >> let's be serious. i mean -- >> he strikes me as a businessman. >> he is. >> a businessman with an ego. okay. so he's like

russia has a different perspective russia has always been a great power russia was a superpower in the soviet union was in the russia is as you point out in your in your interview at the russian perspective is that it has been ignored his interest has been ignored interests have been ignored and there were certain policy that the united states did not abandon in the aftermath of the cold war that when they do expansion and you know with nato expansion internet exploration and is it expansion i remember reading sarah books after after the collapse of the soviet union with a bit where we have we had given. assurances that nato would not expand would not come to russia's border borders and then we just went ahead and do it so from russia's perspective continued is very much alive so russia and china have to have always wanted to have a multiple to work now what's happening is in the in the aftermath of two eights economic meltdown they didn't make situation has has not has not been favoring you know the u.s. interest so in the aftermath of that mark that pulled out of the has become more

russia relations and russia relations with the rest of the word. time will tell. >> has putin found his limit here? he snatched away crimea, that seems not even in question anymore. and now there seems to be at least to some extent a retreat has he taken from this situation what he wanted from it and obviously his popularity has shot up through the roof. he won in his terms, has he not. >> first of all i don't think it is wise for anybody to try to get inside the head of president putin given what happened just in the last four months. let me take opposition to one thing you said about crimea, neither the united states nor ththe europeans for most of the civilized world have recognized what russia did in crimea. we still respect the full sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine and as part of the sanctions that we have imposed on russia we imposed harsh sanctions on those running crimea and on the economic relationship with crimea and that will continue. with regard to where putin goes from here as i said, i think we just don't know yet. it

the most gorgeous women are in russia. welcome to russia. kind of sober. united we stand. >> i prepared the special for you. russian tapas. specially for vodka drinking. with small pancakes like blinis then caviar. this looks like winter. salted cucumber with honey. this is baltic sprouts smoked one with beet root. and this is a muksun. this is a whitefish. whitefish frozen and you can eat it raw. >> thank you. i'm hitting the caviar and the blini. >> maybe some more vodka. >> thank you. >> what do you think? what is the perception of mr. putin these days? after 14 years he's in power. >> my perception? you really want to hear it? >> i'm not sure, but let's see. >> a former midlevel manager in a large corporation, short, i think that's very important. short. who has found himself master of the universe. and like a lot of short people, if you piss them off bad things happen to you. he likes to take his shirt off a lot. >> let's be serious. i mean -- >> he strikes me as a businessman. >> he is. >> a businessman with an ego. okay. so he's like

she winks and pick ceremony designed to improve russia's international image. most records jailed seven people in a show trial for their role in the protests outside the court at least two hundred people well rested including human rights activists opposition leaders and two of the members of the feminist rushing record with the riots the idea this week the browns team members korea. i feel kinda and the distant or unique about it with several members that the us senate and house of representatives of the russia's human rights abusers can go make a school with both of the punitive damages against the tin united states. shade and business as usual with russia our sanctions can make a difference if they aren't meaningful and strong and significant. and my hope is that the presence of these young women. whose courage and strength should inspire we'll make a difference to the way that our government deals with russia. at least one hundred thousand people were going to treat an audit of moscow's red square for the thieves may take a right for claiming his invasion o

we're also further isolating russia and imposing significant costs on russia for the actions. united states has led the international community in isolating it diplomatically as my colleague have laid out. at the department of defense we have halt the all military engagements with russia, including bilateral exercises and meetings and port visits and planning conferences. . although we maintain channels for dialogue that deescalate -- senior levels of dialogue. while we have worked hard over the last two decades to build the cooperative defense relationship with russia, its actions to undermine stability in europe mean we cannot proceed with business as usual. chairman menendez, and members of the committee, russia's actions stand as an o front to the order that we have worked to build since the end of the cold war. the illegal ab annexation of crime ya and followed by blatant efforts signifies a para dime shift. to display the situation otherwise, it crisis is one of its choosing. these actions recommendation a wholesale rejection. i want to conclude by thanking the congress

tobut russia will have invest. it needs to build a new pipeline to link china to carry gas from western siberia. it will invest $55 billion, and china $22 billion. >> well, for more on this deal, i am joined by a guest. thank you for coming in. now, let's talk about the timing of this deal. it could not come at a better moment. >> you are right. putin is a wonderful tactician, but maybe not so good of a businessman. probably less of a price than would be needed. for example, the average price of exports from russia to europe concerning gas is approximately dollars for 1000 cubic meters. whereas the deal that has been sealed today is probably more or less around 350 u.s. dollars for the same. >> so you agree with what we heard from the analyst there in that report, saying that international circumstances may have pushed russia's hand a bit in these negotiations? >> yes, it shows that russia was in desperate need of an ally, and second, it shows the financial loss of russia is counterbalanced by political benefits. c

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i think china and russia. russia. has an advantage in energy in china as are the largest energy marketing the wall it's already thirty percent more energy than the consumption then the united states looks like a school to become twice as big as the u.s. in about ten years our saw saw i think that it is a strong complementarity between the two economies and i think what what's going on now is is very very important step forward and in this relationship if if the managed care for a would have become very big and what about what do you think china stands to gain other than simple energy supplies i think of the obviously china hopes their russian economy would do well china is advantages in mass manufacturing of consumer goods especially cheaper consumer goods and russia is a large consumer market so if the russian economy does well and it's helped china to to the two economies together with energy and with with manufacturing i think it could help each other large the global economy is not doing very well it's two percent

russia is euro-asia power. china is working with russia to reconfigure raate the power politics. >> david, does this mean that russia's sort of conceding in certain ways that it's a junior partner? this is a country that's never been able to make, foipsz, consumer goods to satisfy the desiresr instance, consumer goods to satisfy the desir desires of its own people it's become a mine and an oil derrick for china. >> it's possible to over play this as a deal that has determined the future. i think it has the capability to do that, depending upon how it lays out. russia made some pretty serious concessions on the price side. at least that's what people think today based on the price of energy. >> may not be the case in years to come if this shale oil continues to reduce the world cost of energy. it might actually turn out to be a good deal from russia from that standpoint because the chinese, five years from now, may say we are paying too much. i would be cautious about predicting the cost of energy based upon thi

russia has a fallback position.tough the maiden protests, was clear that he could not have the whole of the ukraine, so the idea is that he takes the bits he can get away with. i think that is crystal clear from what we have seen in crimea and south and east of ukraine in the last few months. rex a secession vote in crimea led to an ignition. >> a secession vote in crimea led to annexation. does it lead to eastern parts of the country or not? >> it is a little bit trickier. they are controlled through the presence of 20,000 troops. engineering and ensuring an annexation is a lot more challenging. is thattegy from russia they would rather like to expand russia's borders and if opportunities arise, they will do it. i think they really want the populations to welcome them in. i do not think they want a protracted and long drawnout military conflict. is to stabilize ukraine to the point at which russian peacekeepers are invited in or russian troops are invited in. >> what can europe do? we had the meeting of foreign min

imperial russia. very very few lived in unimaginable luxury. while their people worked and starved. didn't work out so well for paul, did it? >> not really. >> they choked the dude to death, right? >> actually strangled with a piece of cord. >> the czars of previous centuries were certainly living the good life. money, no object when it came to personal comfort or luxurious lodgings. in today's imperial powers seem not far behind. putin allegedly had a billion dollar palace built for him. we couldn't license the actual smuggled photo but our artist rendering looks like this. a putin spokesman dismissed all this, telling the "new york times" we have congress halls built for the kremlin but if you call all of them putin's palace, it is nothing but absurd. vodka. haven't tasted that before. so what would i be doing on my outing if i were a czar, looking for cool ox to press? >> enjoying life. >> picking up some good speed here. >> oh, okay. >> some suggested that russia is, after all this time, coming fu

russia for russians russia is a multicultural country is that russia looking for was asia russia looking more towards europe still suffering a kind of identity crisis after the breakup of the soviet union. the interview. of feel good. we speak your language. news programs and documentaries in spanish matters to you breaking news a little too much of angles to these stories. you hear. that the spanish. visit. back here on our international let's take a look at what's. on around the world now in terms of headlines clashes in turkey have erupted in the wake of the country's worst ever industrial accident. i riot police in istanbul used tear gas and water cannon on thousands of protesters who blame the government for turning a blind eye to safety regulations after tuesday's massive explosion and fire at a coal mine which killed over two hundred eighty people bodies are still being recovered from the side there were also protests in other cities are calling on authorities to resign and accusing the prime minister of being a murderer. police in venezuela have arrested of these eighty demonstra

doing this for russia, but embracing russia.t was about giving russia a voice.f a say, a place, ready to go forward with nato membership. it was all about repeating those -- were small countries had to [indiscernible] the geography determined your faith or history. for example, one of the reasons nato came about was because some in yourarlier ideas struck the people in going back to the loose league of nations where everybody is used possible for everybody else's security and therefore no one is secure. there was a natural rebellion politically. make is thatant to [indiscernible] that has to be remembered. >> you have been observing all of this and you have talked with all of these people. how much thought was given to potential blowback from russia? point, wasbservation there a sincere desire or at least intention that if russia was involved in a certain way, it could he come part of the community or not? thes it has been indicated, are is a consistent record on the part of nato and beginning with the first visit of the secreta

but despite all of its rhetoric, russia can't be, because russia is causing this instability.this express concern is cynical and disingenuous and meant only to distract us from the reality that is playing out before our eyes. today i want to focus on one main point. from the outset the government of ukraine has sought to resolve all issues peacefully. through dialogue both internally and with the russian federation. this policy of restraint continued even after russia sub subverted crimea, orchestrated an undemocratic separatist vote in crimea, invaded crimea and announced to the world it had annexed to crimea while lying about its intentions and even its presence in crimea every step of the way. as its country has been carved up, as foreign operatives have moved into its homeland, asthmases of -- as masses of troops have assembled along its border ukraine has continuously, day after day, shown remarkable, almost unimaginable restraint. it has done, -- it has done as this council has asked, it has implemented its international agreements, it has refrained from military respons

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russia and we saw this not as a either or but a way bringing russia closer to nato and giving russia a seat at the table and they voice in all of this. so put together the framework which everybody participated and once this was in place then we could go forward with nato membership the it was all about not repeating the 20th century and even 19th century europe where the small countries had to limit their sovereignty and their foreign policy dependence because they were between two large countries. the geography determine your fate our history was bound to be repeated. for example, one of the reasons why nato came about was because somebody -- some of the earlier ideas of confederation in europe struck people as going back to the very loose legal nation's whole collective security of the 1930s where everybody is responsible for everybody else s security and, therefore, nobody is secure. central and eastern european countries there was a natural rebellion politically against that kind of idea of being in a glass or second class citizen zone. the point want to make is, before transpar

elections scheduled for may twenty fifth japanese prime minister shinzo ave has again urged russia to respect the results of the upcoming presidential elections in ukraine. speaking after a meeting at me to take orders to rustle up they said his country would not tolerate the use of force in ukraine nato secretary general anders phone ross mitcham said the alliance was ready to take further steps if one of its members was to be trapped in the european union japan and the united states have placed a piece that made him an asset freeze that spawned dozens of individual song close to russia president what he referred to him but have held back on wider trade sanctions. it's like an escalation of the crisis in ukraine both japan and the united states have emphasized the importance of ukraine carrying out free elections by march twenty fifth to give people the democratic choice of who should succeed pro russian president to kiama coverage to play cupid february in the midst of bloody protest do yound to him the eye. in the room the ch you will. the ch ch ch isn't it. you really want. the po

that russia isn't willing to take. yes there may be no military invasion but at the same time i wouldn't put it past the germans to repeat their position back in 2008. i wouldn't be surprised if the signals are going to moscow that the last wouldn't recognize but with ackley s. to the crimea. i just gave two days ago a presentation to a bunch of military officers in the majority in the room said clearly they are going to keep a crimea. that isn't a bad deal. he didn't lose a lot of people there. he took it, he'd have some troops on the border, grabbed crimea and as i pointed out before it is a process on an event, and if we don't do the sanctions come and the sanctions by the u.s. alone without europe, but alone without china, japan, other principled russian trading partners are meaningle meaningless. the u.s. doesn't abide russian oil. it is traded in global markets. the gas goes to europe and will increasingly be lng sold into china. so if we could disrupt the banking payments and mess up the finances within iran, th

russia china. big energy deal in history worth hundreds of billions of dollars cementing the historic relationship of the continent's giants. in the east of the country we get down to the front line to talk to the defense fight. at a road libyan general the country's lawmakers a militia group. detained twenty officials. from all of us here. welcome to the program. top headlines for this month. never before have relations between russia and china been a strong as they are today that's what president vladimir putin has declared the head of state is to travel to shanghai on choose day and a trip expected to yield some of the biggest trade deals of the century correspondents are in the region they report on how much both sides stand to gain. so here we are in the financial capital of china probably one of the capitals financial capitals of the world and we're actually looking for a summit which is kicking off on tuesday between central asian states and russia now one of the highlights of the summit as

russia's. interests have to be respected and that is something that is being argued for this side of they're going to. use is going to arguing that russia's interests have to be have to be recognized. russia is a great power russia is definitely good we can be going to it is a want to be good partner a lot of the superpower that is russia is a good power so you know all of these these these collision of interests that right nowell is creating a situation an uncertain situation in which the dumb as you know this is their your writing is the main leads in the military realm but you know we are going to exploit that we are exploiting that in the asia pacific and we're not going to give that up until we are we're doing that lead to africa in fighting terrorism so you know no dominant power is going to be our no grid power no uni polar in the unit. no dominant power is going to see our demise as a done deal well defined you to take this to take these keys and giggle that they're going to happen ok i

in april nato suspended all practical to do in a note for cooperation with russia although russia has maintained his diplomatic mission to nato. alexander gazebo went on to say that they don't officially the deployment of substantial numbers of combat what it is either permanently or on a rotational basis of a nato officials are spending more white objects. local member states this would mean more poetry spending. we remember the words president calling europeans. to chip in and to spend more on nato and us could also mean more tension is because with the military buildup may come of the buildup of here. i was kind to the former pentagon official michael indeed he believes an exam by his comments. that's how he was nice to finally be easy its relations with russia. as an unfortunate statement because it is basically no draws a picture of russia and and and europe. it has been adversaries when there's a tremendous trade going on between russia and in europe so light i think that the others are more room of the nato countries probably more mature level headed the people to clean in euro

then are you investing in russia and china as well well russia is russia is one of the most hated stock markets in the world perhaps i can only to argentina which is hated more i have learned that when things like that happen it's usually pretty cheap russia has a convertible currency has very low debt has lots of resources and when the stocks get knocked down i started invest because i was very bearish on russia for for forty six years of my life i've only started becoming positive on russia in the last couple of years so i do think i see opportunities and therefore of investing so when did you first come to russia i first went to russia in one nine hundred sixty six and came away pessimistic and was pessimistic for the next forty six years knew it wouldn't work but now i see positive changes taking place and so i started investing in russia but what was that moment that actually changed your mind to remember no it was not anything specific it was a series of events i happened i went to vladivostok i saw what was happening and lot of. saw changes i went to moscow a couple of times i sa

it blames russia for that exclusively russia for that it wants to punish russia for everything that happened in ukraine and that doesn't seem to be very conducive context for any sort of understanding well i what better time to come when in fact there are issues that need to be examined first hand and need to be understood and certainly this trip was planned long before ukraine there are areas in which the united states and russia actually have collaborate very closely which seem not to be discussed very much and some of that cooperation has been suspended because of the recent tensions some have and some haven't p five plus one the negotiations with iran the deal over syria in which the united states and russia relied heavily on one another so look it would be it would be foolish to argue that there are not significant tensions between moscow and washington but having said that there is no more important time to talk about these issues in the. but now when there are these difficulties and we are here because we want to hear from russians what they think and we will take the message back i t

while russia and the u.s. are trading these veiled and not so veiled threats, violence is burst in ukraine. >> two helicopters shut down with ground to air missiles today. the president referred to those. you mentioned this fire at the plant in odessa. that's 31 dead people. more than that killed in the gunfire. it's looking more and more like an armed conflict and now you have the administration setting a new standard which is the continuation of this kind of disruption as we get closer to that election on may 25th, crucial elections and the outlook right now does not look good. every day, ukraine looks more and more like a country at war. here, residents cheered after two ukrainian helicopters are shot done, both pilots were killed. and here, pro-russian militants crash with ukrainian police. the new violence comes as ukrainian forces launch their most intensive efforts so far to push pro-russian militants from one eastern city from a slip from their control. but ethnic russians resisted, blocking ukrainian

russia blames nato. nato blames russia. nick schifrin has more.rz >> reporter: in the heart of occupied eastern ukraine, they mourn the death of a 21-year-old nurse shot at a check point. the west fears they are mourning the death of the 21st cent industry world order. >> this stops dead in the water the vision of a europe that is whole, undivided and secure. >> reporter: the interukrainian government calls this war. pro-russian supporters are capturing more government buildings. when government forces attempt to fight back, they largely failed. at stake the country that bridges west with east. >> if we don't stop this invasion there will be a europe that will be divided between a community of sovereign democracies, and an authoritarian regime. >> reporter: that was the cold war order when countries redrew board worse force. if russia grabs ukraine. >> you have russia unleashing a dynamic we thought ended 20 years ago. >> reporter: nato is threating the cold war balance according to russia. in 1990 it stopped at germany, in 1999 it added three mor

as far as russia is concerned, crimea is part of russia. just in crimea and i noticed that the mobile coverage .here was very poor what are your plans for the region? are you going to be investing their? have you sent the engineers down? what is going on? it does not depend on engineers. the first point is economics. if you compare the russian out is ato the crimean, it more than one dollar. that means to send engineers there, too brought the network, we have to have an investor. sure that this is a good investment case at this moment. we have not done a lot of work --it very it secondly, secondly we need to look at frequencies. we have not been offered anything yet. >> when you look at disputed territory where russia has a presence, the banks are not really working in crimea yet. be you who were afraid he might upset the west and bankers might take it out on you. >> to be honest, we have done zero homework on that. again, we haven't done any preparatory it is too early to talk about it. shares in the forany, which is operating a long time.

russia remembers our independence day when russia and india were very close.y were supplying equipment to us. all that has changed quite a bit now. india today really manufactures high-tech equipment. they don't have that exposure. one of my meetings yesterday, one of the russian gentlemen said, you know, it's really sad to see how you all have progressed and now you're turning around and offering us technology which we used to do to you 40, 50 years ago. so there is realization but it's not widespread. the larger companies know but it's the small and medium sector that don't know. the small and medium sector i believe of both countries is the backbone of the industry. so that's one of the reasons why we are here. >> that's globalization for you. let me finish by coming back to mr. mody and this landslide victory that he's enjoyed here. from the business community's perspective, what could he do very quickly for you to improve business conditions? >> when the same government was in power ten years ago, they initiated all the infrastructure. they built a quad l

the nato russia founding act where we set the nato nations would sit with russia together to talk about all of our major security concerns. that was an opportunity for russia to work alija lee with nato. instead, they used it as a place to argue and a place to complain rather than try to build together. i think there were many missed opportunities on russia's side to work collaboratively with us as we work with each other. i just regret that. i think we might have had a very different russia today is a resident who manned other leaders had taken advantage of them of the opportunities we had on the table. >> vladimir putin could be president for another decade. is there anything conceivably that will turn him back in another direction? or do you think there is much more xenophobia and services, highly conservative moralism that he's been creating as a state ideology will be relaxed with a media that is tightened up, censorship exerted, is there any conceivable notion in your mind that vladimir putin will go the other direction and liberalized afore he leaves office? otherwise, are we not

how interested is russia in the gcs? very, very interested in advertising, but not interested in reality. he was in moscow last year or the year before, they made a big splash about it. putin did a major speech about it in which didn't represent anybody else's policy apart from his own. but the key thing really is only 3 countries are really high profile. the russians -- i guess the uranian sindhi ontarians. the problem is -- the uranian's -- iranians and the algerians. the problem is none of them can agree on anything. this is something that journalists get very excited about, but not many other people. ok, just talk about thependents and deregulation of the russian market, and just to pick up a point that both of you made about balance, it is really adjusting a thing about why -- really interesting to think about why the independents have seen such a dramatic increase in their market share and production. it comes down to the problem that gazprom has in terms of balancing its political objectives set by the kremlin and

-russia i think timep, will tell. the president of russia said that you will risk that the whoevernd work with elected. it will be good for russian relations with the rest of the world. tell.ill >> he snatched away crimea. that seems not even in question anymore and there seems to some extent to be a retreat. his popularity has shot up through the roof. he has one on has terms, has he not? >> i don't think it's wise for anyone to get in the head of president putin the given what has happened just in the last four months. let me take issue with one thing you said there with regards to crimea. states nor most of the civilized world has recognized what russia did in crimea. we still respected. the tm territorial integrity of ukraine -- we still respect the territorial integrity. that will continue. with regard to where krugman goes from here, as i said, i think we just don't know yet. it will depend very much on whether he decides to reach out to president-elect poroshenko and whether he's interested in the escalating. w

sanctions on russia. i look forward to hearing from the status ofout the administration's ongoing discussions with the e.u., as plans within nato to counter russian aggression and reassure our central european and baltic allies. hearingook forward to from miss freidh about the status of existing arms and existing control agreements between the united states and russia. while further arms reduction seem unlikely in the current relieved that'm the united states and russia have continued to implement the new start agreement included by exchanging notifications and on site inspections. exchanges provide much needed stability and predict ability at a time of increasing and uncertainty. i also support the administration's efforts to work n. f. treaties review mechanisms to address concerns may bessian activities inconsistent with its treaty obligations. i strongly supported the decision to cut off defense cooperation with russia. i've consistently called on our european alice to follow suit and to exercise simi

you know russia is putting pressure russia russia wants to spare ribs the elections to prove it and so on and so he's got to really say this but the problem really is that we need to see what will that use the wednesday thursday and friday of the americans and the european union card. to the new president will propose pressure on him. well they would be pushing him and saying look you have to be tough with russia you have to continue the strike to make you have to accuse them of meddling in our in your affairs even the king took the red you know that's they're saying that the russian troops on the ground russian intelligence officers are still in the east on sale and sam said this this i think we have to take him and that this a new president will do it and how he will respond to events and what he will basically be about and i have a strange suspicion that the people in the state department and in the in brussels done really well and this tension to subside i think they actually went to station to continue and this is where the problem is because they were president let me be i said a

russia has economic problems.what it does want 100% is continuing economic relations with eastern ukraine. putin's position is, trade with the european union, trade with russia. why did europe save it only trade with one of the other? why would russia wanted to eastern ukraine? if you asked me, are the russian agents in eastern ukraine? i would say, i certainly hope so, to help control a movement that putin can't control. you don't want things spinning out of control in eastern ukraine. >> we will leave it there, stpehen cohen. his most recent book is recently out in paperback called, "soviet fates and lost alternatives: from stalinism to the new cold war." we will link to your piece in the nation magazine called, "cold war against russia -- without debate." this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. when we come back, what does cia have to do with polio in pakistan? stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm am

with russia's ability to pay. but at the same time i will not put it past the germans to repeat their positions back 2008 and i was not too surprised that the signals are going to moscow but they will acquiesce to this and i just gave us two days ago a presentation to a bunch of america's military officers and which ones i clearly they are going to keep this in the crimea. well, it's not a bad deal. he didn't lose any people there. you took it, he bluffed and put some troops on the border and as i've pointed out before, it is a process. and if we don't include the sanctions, the sanctions by the u.s. alone without europe, let alone without china or japan or other principal russian trading partners, the u.s. visit by russian oil, russian oil is traded in global markets. russian gas goes to europe and then will increasingly be sold to china. so yes, if we could disrupt the banking payments in mess of the finances that we did, don't forget this is a country that survived the war to which they lost 5 million people. s

>> because russia is no longer russia. russia is now also integration project.that is the big thing that changed. and it surprised elites and european union as well as in ukraine and we're certainly just now coming to terms with it. the traditional policy has been to balance between east and west . the west as far as you can, then go back east. that doesn't work out, go back west. every ukrainian president has done that in one form or another. the reason that is no longer possible is that russia is no longer a state. russia is also integration process called eurasia. the reason why we have the revolution we have from november to march of last year and this year, is that russia became an exclusive alternative. what russia wanted was for ukraine to join his project, the eurasian union, rather than a trade deal with the european union. there we had a clear deal between the ukrainian president who decided in the end not to move toward europe and the people who started the protests in favor of moving toward europe. in ane is to longer traditional geopolitical situati

against russia. we will take a look at how effective they are likely to be. that story and more when "bottom line" continues. ♪ >> european union foreign ministers have agreed to expand sanctions imposed on russia over its stance on the crisis in ukraine. lauren goodrich is a senior political analysis at a geopolitical intelligence firm and joins me now from austin, texas. good to see you again. >> thank you for having me. >> last time you and i spoke was back in march and you said at that time that sanctions against russia wouldn't be effective without the europeans being fully on board. has anything changed in the past two months? what nothing has changed. extensiveans levied sanctions on russia but it's a mere fraction of what the u.s. has done and even those sanctions are not effective against russia. the current sanctions levied today were an expansion to 13 russian and ukrainian individuals involved in the crimea annexation as well as two crimean-based companies expropriated ring the annexation