the fire and before that i had a compost with branches -- and i have to thank fire inspector steve gonzalez and also the building inspector, inspector [inaudible] who had helped me in the spring of 2013 giving me suggestions what to do to clean up from the fire. and i finally also -- if i could [inaudible] and then [inaudible] my good friend who retired from the department of public works a few years ago associate director. he was my [inaudible] at church . so to summarize, i submitted to you my utility bills and i have continuous pge bill in september too. and i brought in the rest of my water bill and [inaudible] bill for the past. i also give those to the department of building inspection. >> thank you. i have to cut you off. you'll have a chance for rebuttal and comment. >> commissioner lee. >> can i ask the department, what evidence did we use to determine that the building was vacant and abandoned? >> actually, how this really came on the radar, it was a newspaper article some years ago in the examiner around the time of the fire and at that time we had two properties -- we had 641, t