and jamie rubin. thanks for joining me. jamie, i'll start with you. i find the video riveting in terms of the subject matter, the brevity and the human to human contact. it was released by the taliban,s ostensibly because it shows the talibans a functioning opposition party, if you will. they are handshaking with american special ops and i guess, conveys the veneer of legitimacy. how did you view it? what was your take-away when you saw it? >> i think that's a fair take. the taliban would like to be seen as the legitimate representative for afghanistan. and playing with these great superpower, sending a message, don't come back to afghanistan. and certainly fits their propaganda. the sad part, of course, is that the taliban don't represent afghanistan. there are, i don't know how many, but huge millions of afghans who don't want to see the united states leave because they're afraid that those people who committed such atrocities when they rule afghanistan the last time may be coming back and i'm worried they may be coming back. >> when you looked at t