. >> reporter: ken melton still keeps his daughter's number in his cell phone.o hold on to. are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> reporter: any amount of money? >> right. >> it's not about the money. >> reporter: general motors h e hired former u.s. attorney antoine lucas to do an investigation. the justice department is also investigating. ken melton will keep fighting. >> knowing the truth for her, it's certainly worth it. >> cnn's poppy harlow is here with me now. brook was not counted in that original 13 gm is admitted to. is she perhaps the tip of a very big iceberg of other people who come forward? >> she may be. general motors up until today when we spoke with them is sticking with that 13 number, saying that ignition switch defect resulted in the death of 13 people. however, we know they're only counting frontal impact crashes where air bags did not deploy. not side impact crashes. not people sitting in the back seat where these happened. there was a case where one girl dieded who is in the front, counted on the list

my next guests are beth and ken melton.ke's death four years ago and the investigation that followed is credited with forcing gm to acknowledge those faulty ignition switches. how surprising is it for the two of you to sit and hear that in 2002 a gentleman with 36 years of gm experience under his belt, an individual who ran the so-called quality audit, warned the entire board of these defective automobiles? >> michael, we're always very grateful when any employee of the general motors corporation stands tall and comes forward with the truth. this also shines light on the fact that gm as a corporate culture wantonly ignored safety issues, even when alerted by their own employees. >> there was something he said, which was breathtaking. i'd like to just play a brief tape and have you respond to it. roll that if you would. >> if that had been corrected in '98, if we had done a thorough check of all our procedures and found out how safety defects were getting through, none of this would have happened. it's pretty simple. >> mr.

among those eager to hear the result, ken and beth melton. their daughter, brooke, died in a car crash. they are family says it was the result of a faulty ignition switch on her 2005 chevy cobalt. they settled initial claims against the company but asked to reopen the case, saying gm hid evidence from them. >> they're playing with numbers, that they don't count brooke's death, and she's dead because of that ignition switch. >> are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> reporter: any amount of money? >> right. >> it's not about the money. >> so, general motors denies the allegation that it hid evidence. the investigation is expected to exonerate the current ceo, mary barra, who has repeatedly said she had no knowledge of the faulty switches until she took the top job earlier this year. she did hold several senior jobs before this top job, so the fact that it exonerates here is of importance. >> and her entire career has been spent at general motors. >> yes. >> so, a lot of the attention has been on mary barra.

attorney anton voluckas to do an internal investigation and ken and beth melton will keep fighting. >> brooke's worth it. whatever it takes. if it took the next 20 years, knowing the truth for her, it's certainly worth it. >> poppy harlow, cnn, mir marietta, georgia. >>> many people paused to remember the crackdown in at this enna men square. >>> world leaders and elderly vets are preparing to get together on friday to observe the 70th anniversary of d day. bulldog: [yawning] it's finally morning! i can't wait to get to mattress discounters because the tempur-pedic bonus event is ending soon. i'll have first pick from the huge selection of tempur-pedic mattresses. then, i'll get to choose $300 in pillows, sheets, and other free gifts. on top of that, up to 48 months interest-free financing. it's a beautiful day for mattress discounters' tempur-pedic bonus event. mmm, some alarm clock you turned out to be. ♪ mattress discounters >>> this is "cnn newsroom." i'm errol barnet. >> and i'm rosemary church. we want to welcome back our viewers in the united states and all around the world and

. >> reporter: ken melton still keeps his daughter's number in his cell phone.for him to hold on to. >> are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> it is not about the money. brooke is worth it. whatever it takes. if it took the next 20 years, knowing the truth for her, it certainly is worth it. >> reporter: p the meltons are able to we open their case they may have to give back the settlement money to general motors. they said they are willing do that. they want the see this go to trial. this is not over for g.m. congress is still investigating and the department of justice is in the midst of a criminal probe. >>> meantime, horror movies are one thing. but this week, police say that two young girls turned horror into reality. next, we will explain what sl slener man is. a character that allegedly inspired a pair of 12-year-old girls to try to kill their friend. [ male announcer ] how did red lobster make four amazing entrees even better? with lobster! don't miss our first ever lobster toppers event! 4 delicious entrees topped wit

among those eager to hear the result, ken and beth melton. their daughter, brooke, died in a car accident. her family says it was a result of a faulty ignition switch on her 2005 chevy cobalt. they settled their initial claims against the company but have asked to reopen the case, saying that gm hid evidence from them. >> they're playing with numbers. they don't count brooke's death, and she's dead because of that ignition switch. >> reporter: are you willing to settle this time? >> no. settlement is off the table. >> reporter: any amount of money? >> right. >> it's not about the money. >> gm denies the allegation it hid evidence. the investigation is expected to exonerate current ceo mary barra, who has repeatedly said she had no knowledge of the faulty switches until she took the top job earlier this year. she's worked at gm a long time, senior positions. >> her entire career. but people say gm is a company full of silos and it is possible that safety could have been separate from engineering and other parts of the country. the recall came

we spent this week talking to beth and ken melton who lost their daughter brooke melton in a crash theytion switch defect. listen to what they told me. >> i would gladly give my last breath just to hug her and tell her i loved her one more time. just one more time. >> i kept thinking that this is not possible. it's her birthday. it can't. this can't have happened that she died. >> when i touched her hand, it was cold. i knew in my heart and my gut there was something wrong with the car, that it wasn't her fault. >> reporter: brooke melton is not counted on gm's list of 13 victims. there are a lot of other families out there like this. they want some answers and we will see if we get more answers today. >> what am i missing here? poppy, thank you for digging into the families and getting us to understand that perspective because that is what matters most here. what am i missing? this company is looking into itself. how is that the solution? i know they had to pay a fine and it was a $35 million fine. if we want to say it's meaningless there is proof because the street who measures this,

their daughter brooke melton was killed in a chevy cobalt which had a faulty ignition switch. have you had a chance to talk with ken he's been putting to the this plan? and what are you expecting to hear today? >> yes, i've had a few conversations with mr. feinberg. what we're expecting, obviously, is a plan to come out. we're hopeful it's not the final plan, that there will continue to be discussions in order to, as miss barra said, get gm to do get the right thing for all of the victims of these recalled vehicles. >> do you have any idea in terms of parameters for the dollar amount for those fatalities that are linked to these faulty ignition switches? are we talking 5 million? 10 million? what is it you're expecting that he's going to say. >> well, initially, the question is going to be the scope of the vehicles. my concern is the conversations i've had. gm is tying mr. feinberg's hands. and they're only going to allow him to consider less than half of the recalled vehicles as part of the compensation plan. so the scope we need to listen to, but the scope likely is going to be far too narrow. as far as the compe