and mr. topra is coordinator for an organization called the [inaudible] foundation. and maybe i understand he's talked with each of and maybe you've already answered the questions that are satisfied are the concerns i'm raising. you may want to consult with your deputy city attorney. at any rate, if those questions were not answered, i would suggest that you defer action on their topra's appointment. >> good afternoon supervisors. i'm the immediate past president of the society of professional journalist northern california chapter. the delay by the board of supervisors in appointing candidate to the sunshine task force has had the effect that there's few members that it's hard to get a quorum which has presented the task force of doing the business it was set up to do. as tom points out, the public wants transparency and journalist have a role to play in pressing for that transparency. the spj chapter has been around for seven decades pushing for freedom of information and sunshine with the support of our nation organization the entire time. access to public records