r.j. johnson's importance in leading the coordination effort. here's what the governor said when asked about the e-mail. listen to this. >> they state that you sent an e-mail to karl rove suggesting koord medication with r.j. johnson. did that happen? >> again, i have not seen that. i don't know what specifically you're talking about. i can't imagine that. >> now, he says, senator, he can't imagine he sent the e-mail. is he accusing prosecutors of outright fabricating evidence? >> you know, it sounds a little bit like that. he sure is trying to tap dance around the truth which is he knows that is e-mail was sent. he wants to not blatantly say he didn't send the e-mail. it's no different, to be honest with you, rev, when he was talking to what he thought was a koch brother and talked to him about what he wanted to have done to tie to influence the recare k recall election and try to sabotage protests that were civil protests that were happening in madison against his efforts with act ten. i'm just suggesting to you our governor is not always the

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r.j. johnson. s cite a 2011 email sent by governor walk t oo none other than karl rove. the email reads bottom line, r.j. helps keep in place a team that is widely successful in wisconsin. we are running nine recall elections and it will be like nine congressional markets in every market in the state. r.j. johnson is a top adviser to the wisconsin club for growth. this could be the beginning of walker's downfall. what democrats have been accusing walker of all along now has prosecutors alleging walker broke the law. for more on this, let's turn to our rapid response panel tonight. wisconsin state senator. great to have both of you with us tonight. ruth, you first. the state law in wisconsin is very clear on this. tell our listeners tonight what is walker up against? >> well, we haven't got a conviction here, ed, but we have a major, major smoking gun. this is what didn't happen and the first john doe investigation which ended with six convicts of walk earn's closest aides and walker was never implic

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r.j. johnson, a top aide, would lead coordinated efforts to beat the recall.ker illegally raised money in his state's recall election, the one in which he outspent his opponent by nearly 8 to 1, if that money was raised illegally, then the people of wisconsin rightly deserve a recall of their recall. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is coming up next. >>> good evening, americans and welcome to "the ed show" life from new york. are we ready to go? let's get to work. >> here at home, iraq sparked vigorous debates. >> do you think that president obama is dangerous? >> yes. >> the white house has known for months about this situation in iraq. >> we will be prepared to take targeted and precise military action. >> what has the united states of america done? >> president obama's withdrawal, regarding iraq has proved deeply harmful. >> american combat troops are not going to be fighting in iraq again. >> barack obama has stated repeatedly that terrorist threats are gone. >> we have counterterrorism interests.

r.j. johnson who was simultaneously working for the walker campaign as well as for the wisconsin pac club in place a team that is wildly successful in wisconsin. we are running nine recall elections and it will be like running nine congressional markets in every market in the state. the e-mail allegedly written by a sitting governor seems to suggest coordination with outside groups. we invited governor walker on the show and called and e-mailed his campaign for comment. they did not respond. walker did take questions briefly at the state capitol on thursday. >> people can say or do whatever they want. i think to me an objective, third party of the judiciary at both the state and federal level made it clear they felt there wasn't a case. >> joining us now from madison is scott bauer, he covers wisconsin politics for the associated press. scott, thank you so much for joining us. i want to start with that e-mail that's gotten a lot of attention, allegedly between scott walker and karl rove. it seems to indicate that there may have been some coordination with outside groups. some folks would s

r.j. johnson's role in leading the coordination effort. bottom line, rj helps keep in place a team that is wildly successful in wisconsin. it will be like running nine congressional markets in every market in the state. even if a state without wisconsin's strict campaign finance laws, an e-mail like that took karl rove presents at the very least a perception problem. on wisconsin radio, governor walker insisted keep moving folks, there's nothing to see here. >> there's nothing wrong with that e-mail and what we did. again, that's why i probably have to be the most scrutinized elected official in america today and yet, again, when people look at the facts, they'll realize despite all of that scrutiny, time and time again the facts come back and show that we've done the right thing. >> the right thing? or just the thing that is not so far resulted in criminal charges? because voters particularly in a presidential election, they know that there's a difference. joining me now is former rnc chair michael steele and no two better guests to have

r.j. johnson.he governor himself, bragging about this thing that brings together 12 groups to raise money and of shift money to different races. really weird that the governor himself did that. >> why did he? >> i don't know. is he arrogant? was it cockiness? i bet he was just trying -- >> he was trying to show off. >> brag to rove. >> about how clever his operation is. >> exactly. >> does that make sense as an analysis of this that somebody you want on your side to think you are as tough as everybody. look at this. i have this organized. look at the this. >> i think it speaks to the fact that the independent groups have become so intertwined directly in campaigns and the actions of little bitle ca political partieses to the point the governor thought he was on solid ground. this is almost status quo in elections. we are seeing an interplay between campaigns and independent organizations. >> governor walker has denied any wrongdoing and is pushing back against the allegations. here he was on fox to