i want to bring in the rest of the friend and my gang in here, and we have charles kasewn, and charles gas pa reno. >> i think that bob mcdonald is an interesting choice, but not the right choice. he had a rough time at procter & gamble. >> at the end. >> and because of the not paying attention and accused by the boards -- >> too many boards. you are a hater. >> and a little bit. he does have the military experience so i like the idea of, i mean, i would privatize my v.a. if i had the droth erers at it, but to bring in somebody with the military experience, he, himself, is not the right choi choice. no matter who they bring in, it is going to be somebody who brings in the fairness in the v.a. >> and so put the onus on him to fix the v.a. and in other words, give him the authority that both of the senate and the house have agreed to give and not reconciled the differences. that means that the guy is going to take on a position with one arm tied behind his back. >> and any businessman that goes into the obama administration and if you look at the record over the last eight years almost n