. >> and what about the -- >> well, to dagan's point, you act like we are uninformed about the problem or nobody cares about the vets, and i understand that, but we are interest ed in taking care of the vets now and in the future so that it does not become a problem again. >> for clarity, i am not saying that the republicans or that you are taking this position out of a perspective of not caring for the veterans. i did not say that. i agree. the form is screwed up. >> you said that and then you wanted to end up in the land of oz. >> oh. >> the reality being that earmarking money in a legislative process is not a ridiculous way to get the problem solved quickly. i'm not suggesting that we don't care. >> well, whether it is earmarked or nose marked or leg marked or whatever, the point is that no matter what washington does to dispense and disburse cash, it is always our cash and always misallocated and always wasted and driving up the debt. that is merry-go-round that we have got. >> it is not always. >> 99.9% of the time. >> well, it is not right or fair. and take the military as an exa

and dagan, and now quibbling over $37 billion or $14 billion and for an agency that gets $148 bi billion a year. so we are arguing past each other here, aren't we? >> yes. i argued against rushing to throw money at it because we have seen what has happened in the past, and even with the bank bailout and the sky is falling and you base decisions based on that urgency, but however, this does seem to be at least pure somewhat partisan bicker iing between the house republicans and the senate democrats, and that is what is most disgusting about it is that they can't come together for a mutual good cause to fix a very serious problem, and they are just -- and they are just fighting with each other. you read the articles and i can't figure out what they are fighting over. i mean, there is some money differences in the two bills in the house and the senate, but for the most part, they look the same. >> and that is basically it. the senate provision that would make temporary the this capacity to fire the federal union workers, but really, that is basically it. ben stein, a lot of these things are