makini, you worked hard to get this bill passed. why is it so important?> i always believed in raising the minimum wage. we need a living wage. $9 an hour is not a living wage, neither is $7 or $2, the federal tip wage. none of us here sitting here debating this would accept that. it boosts the economy. with the raise of the wage in seattle, putting $3 billion more into low wage workers pockets. that goes to the sneaker shop down the street or my restaurant. that goes directly to small business owners bottom line. >> stephen, the franchise issue aside, what do your constituents think about the minimum wage raise zing. >> first and foremost, it's important to remember the minimum wage was never intended to be a living wage. it was meant to be a floor. it was entry level workers, lesser skilled positions. because of the downward pressure on the economy, it has put the franchise industry and the quick service restaurant industry in a duff place because people coming out of college or people out of a job can't get the job they want and/or get a job at the sala

i think that they can get there a lot quicker. >> stephen, based on what makini is saying, shouldn't there be support from the mothership, couldn't there be some support from the mothership to get them through this period quicker? >> look, i think it's important to understand that not unlike makini who put her own skin in the game, her own financial resources and effort to build plum restaurants, these small independent owners, the franchisees in seattle and around the country, have put in their life savings, their investment savings or taken out a loan or in some cases have done all three to pay an initial franchise fee to a franchise company and make ongoing royalty payments for use of the trademark, to license the brand. by the way, they declared that by the national labor relations board, the small business administration, the federal trade commission and by several state laws around the country. >> we're unfortunately going to have to end it there. it will be interesting to see how this plays out in cities across the country. but i thank you both very much for explaining both si