telling that mary cheney didn't show up.se it would have given mary and dick a chance to thank all of the liberals who made mary's marriage possible. of course, the fact is, there's a lot of friction in the family, because liz cake out against her own sister's marriage. dick cheney gets credit. i don't think he deserves for supporting marriage equality. held a fund-raiser at his high omming home for mitt romney, wanted to make his own daughter's marriage illegal. it has a lot to the do with what liz did last year challenging mike enzi for the wyoming senate and it blew up in their face. this is a redemption tour. them as was pointed out, not heroes of right wing radio. they're trying to win back their base at this point. >> alliance for a strong america, that's what they're doing. raising money and dishing money out. is it toxic for republicans to stand with dick cheney at this point? >> well, he's probably doing irreversible damage to the republican party brand in the eyes of those 20-somethings who are going to decide elec

they treated mary and me like adults who had something to contribute from an early age. >> mrs. cheney, you were out with a book -- >> war criminal. >> 4 more years. >> i was backstage and i was saying -- it never gets old. [laughter] >> where is the money -- >> it looks like more than 2. >> backstage. >> you destroyed iraq. >> it never gets old. >> it never changes. >> in "james madison: a life reconsidered," you said he would've loved gridlock. explain. >> you destroyed iraq and you are destroying this country. >> james madison would have thought it was a triumph of the republic. we have free speech. i am not sure he will put up with it. he thought this was a good principle. one of the things i took away from the madison book was his firm commitment to limited government. he honestly believed the constitution gave the congress certain rights, certain responsibilities and we should not go beyond those. when he saw government, alexander hamilton moving the government in another direction, he funded the first political party. with the idea, when the government is going in the direction

cheney, are you more like the bushes who didn't discuss politics at dinner or more like the kennedys who always did? >> when the family is alone, liz and maryg old war stories about cam pages we were involved in -- campaigns we were involved in. it's always funny, it always involve train wrecks. the funniest political stories are the train wrecks, and we had a lot of train wrecks along the way. >> and, mrs. chain think? , your -- >> that's a good description. i think the level of enthusiasm for political life varies. when dick was asked to be vice president, he thought that was a great idea. [laughter] i was not so sure, you know, give up your job, give up your house and move. we weren't dead broke, excuse me. [laughter] [applause] but liz and mary was even more reluck about the than i, duh liz, we like to joke, was out in the back yard painting yard signs. >> any actual fights? >> oh, sure. none we're going to talk about today, mike. [laughter] no, but i want to say seriously, though, it's a real tribute to my mom and dad that we did talk politics at the dinner table. we talked about what was happening in the world, and we talked about wha

they treated marie and he very much, you know, like adults who had something worthy to contribute from an early age, and i think it was something that clearly sticks with you. >> ms. cheney just out with a best selling book, "james madison: a life reconsidered." you worked on it for five years. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> you know, it's funny -- >> four more years! four more years! >> i was chatting with the vice president backstage, and i was saying -- i bet that never gets old. and he said -- >> [inaudible] [laughter] [inaudible] >> and we are having some problems with the feed coming to us from "the politico" playbook lunch. going to try to reestablish that connection and get you back to the discussion with former vice president dick cheney and his family. [inaudible conversations] >> take you back there to the conversation with vice president dick cheney. in the meantime, let's take a look at what's going on today in the u.s. house and the senate. going to be working on 2015 funding for the treasury department and other agencies in the senate today. they'll be in at 2:00 eastern time. no legislative work today, but this week working on birth control access after the