olmert offered to create a two-state solution. abbas did not respond.hat israel has since 1948 favored the two-state solution. >> no, no, no. >> two weeks ago this israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said very explicitly he does not support the two-state solution. so we are now in a reality -- >> that's not true. >> it is true. >> he said israel would maintain permanent military control over the west bank. that is not -- >> and a two-state solution. >> you cannot have a palestinian state in which israel has permanent military control of it. >> when the other palestinian state stops sending rockets, that will end. a military occupation can continue until the military threat is over. that is clear under international law. >> so now you're conceding it was a military occupation. >> there is no military occupation in gaza. there is in the west bank. don't put words in my mouth, please. >> in 2005, you're right. 8,000 settlers were moved out. there was a shift. however, palestinian people in gaza, people in gaza have not exercised one day of self-gover

. >>> here i'm joined by ambassador pinkers, a former policy advisor to ehud olmert. good to have you with us. israel comes together on a case like this. there was a tremendous outpouring of emotion in israel. is that what it means to be in a small country under threat from its neighbours. >> yes, it does. big countries like the u.s. comes together when tragedies like this occurred. remember 9/11, and several major disasters that inflicted the u.s. it's a country or a community where everywhere knows everywhere. everyone is two phone calls away from knowing a person they may not know, where the news dominates the gameda, and the aagenda is the news. >> things did get ugly in parts. there was some chants of death to arabs, some attacks on palestinians. there's a lot of anger as a result of these kidnappings. >> true. this is not something - this is something i could understand, something that you could - not justify, but you understand where it's coming from. it cannot be condoned. (a), it's not use slful; (b) it leads nowhere, and (c) it is - it is originating from a

indeed, i remember back when prime minister olmert went into lebanon going after hezbollah, he said it was a bad idea. one of the things you're seeing in this particular war is public opinion in israel is so overwhelmingly favor in this war, 85% to 95% that unites left and right, right now in israel. but i think the issue here is from kerry's point of view, in order to arrange a cease-fire, as gaza had to be brought in, and the way to do that was to negotiate through turkey and qatar. and because we couldn't deal directly with hamas. what a lot of critics said is he should have stuck with egypt and the palestinian authority. his proposal didn't give israel anything like it needed in terms of military security. so you've got a split here at a difference of opinion that's getting expressed through other inflated and angry language. >> i've got to say, i think it's beyond inflated and angry when you have an israeli government official calling what the american secretary of state has done a terrorist attack. a strategic terrorist attack. >> i agree with you. >> janeane, is this an all-time

the other truth of netanyahu is he is very, very reluctant to go to war, and his predecessor, ehud olmert, launched some wars, and the netanyahu years, and it has been several years now, has been noticeably quiet because he has been very, very reluctant as far as widening the aperture here, to go all out against hamas. he is, of course, under pressure from his right, from, let's say, more militant parties and coalitions to go and give hamas the same middle east rhetoric, give them the deathblow, strike hard, but so far, he seems to be resisting. there have been only minor call ups of troops, and there is no suggestion he wants to go down this road. >> so you have got -- not that they are necessarily strategically or morally equivalent, but you have this interesting your image, where hamas in gaza has jihad, and going towards it's more militant side, and these forces that they do not control or do not entirely control or can't keep a lid on over there, they have to do some things, and then you have got netanyahu, again, a guy from the right who has this coalition with forces to his right w

the at the end of the day you have the occupation for 47 years, in 2008, ehud olmert had a similar waras engaged in a serious negotiation with the palestinians to try to create a two-state solution. benjamin netanyahu has done essentially into negotiation with the pal spins on that front. what is your long-term strategy? are you going to be back here a year from now, five years from now? >> the back problem obviously, they don't talk to each other without intervention, egypt has been helpful in the past, a little unstable right now. they have a plan on the deal which is to stop fighting. kerry is the main man in the latest round. does he deserve the stink that's on him right now? >> i don't think so. i think that what kerry is trying to do, to be fair to the american effort, was to create some kind of process by which there could be a negotiation, there could be dialogue, there could be some meeting of minds, even if on smaller issues like creative humanitarian corridors. >> did you do it the wrong way or just the reality got in the way of him making any progress? >> the rap against hi