. >> you just spent the afternoon ursus manta spent an afternoon with the ceo coach. when you think about the competitive landscape and what this will look like in the future, is a one platform is kickstarter? or is it going to be a fragmented thing where charities will go to one place? how you feel about crowd sourced investments where people will have equity on the other hand? >> -- on the other end? >> our goal is to help people create things, help people make stuff. we don't support charitable fundraising. we will not support investment. we are very focused on a single thing which is honestly just where our hearts lie and where we originated and what we still care about in the thing that we pursue with a lot of love. i think there is a pretty good chance that if we were different people running this week could try to be the walmart of crowd funding. i don't want to do that. it doesn't seem very interesting to me. it is not what we care about. there will be other things. there will be platforms focusing on investment. that is fine. we are, there were platforms exis