. >>> and stanford business guru and best-selling author, bob sutton. with reporters colleen taylor of tech crunch and martin giles this week on "press here." >> good morning, everyone, i'm scott mcgrew. i want to start by taking you inside the offices of heresay. a company that went from two founder and hundreds of employees quickly. scaling up that fast can be incredibly challenging. bob sutton has lots of advice for heresay and other companies trying to go big. he's a key part of the success of many silicon valley startups. he's a approviesoris at stanford school of business. his book is "scaling up excellence: getting to more without settling for less." this is, by my count, his sixth book. joined by martin jonathan elias of "the economist" and colleen taylor of tech crunch. so this idea of scaling up -- i saw one founder -- i think they use this all the time, go big or stay home. go big or go home. it's more complicated than that. thing get weird when you get big. >> they do get weird. and it's interesting you mention heresay and the ceo. we just i