the president and cio of castle mark management, scott wren with wells fargo adviser. the s&p looksat 2000 mark what happen significance is that level for you? >> well, you know, i look at that as just a number but it's going to test it. while we're talking about here, it may trade over it and certainly i think we're going to trade above it here before this rally's over because i think not only through the end of this year, but likely through the end of 2015, i think this market has more upside. so, we're trying to get our clients fully invested here. that's difficult with retail investors. but i think this market's going high. >> you agree the 2000 level, psychologically important at least could see some follow-up, follow on upside foengs from there? >> most certainly. scott's right, there's a bunch of distracts in the marketplace today, geopolitical stuff, just things that happen in the monthly statistics tend to take people's eyes off of the fact that stocks are broadly cheap across the board. and the economy is still yet to really hit its stride. if you see the prospects for thr