that's when joe berman came in. so we ended up with three horns. and we've had them ever since.s has been 15, 20 years. >> when it comes to the choir. >> right. >> and i had the privilege of being there and i come to the choir rehearsals, you rehearse throughout the night it seemed like, six to eight songs. how do you come on sunday, but you also like the songs. >> first i got to see what soloists are there. and i tried to set the mood for the preacher to preach. i think that's my primary job. and you know, first you want to wake the people up, so you don't want to start with nothing slow, slow, okay. and then the next song you can't keep hitting them like that, you know. you got to wake them up. >> wake them up. >> and them calm them down. and then fire them back up. i mean, that's my -- my way of doing it. and so far it has worked. and that's something before the preacher preaches that really will touch you you know. >> so you always have to be in tune with that spirit as you go along, discern what song is going to be. >> yeah. >> 'cause you try to bring the people in, i mean,

and that's when joe berman came in. so we ended up with three horns. and we've had them ever since. 20 years now. >> when it comes to the choir, and i had the privilege of being there and i would come to the choir rehearsals, it was like you had rehearsed throughout the night, six to eight songs. how do you come on sunday to select the songs? i know cecil has the responsibility but you also select the songs. >> first i got to see what soloists are there, and i try to set the mood for the preacher to preach. i think that's my primary job. and, you know, at first you want to wake the people up so you don't want to start out with nothing slow, and then the next song, you can't keep hitting them like that, you know? you got to wake them up and then calm them down, and then fire them back up. i mean, that's my way of doing it. and so far it has worked. and then something before the preacher preaches that really would touch you, really jump in. >> so you have to always be in tune with that spirit as you go along to discern what the song is going to be. >> yes. because you're trying to bri

and then by that method it turns out joe b. berman has the same ratio. but i would say finnair times content would be elected joe lieberman speech in some ways. i don't say that in the book and it is good to be called unbiased. that means about 50. so something like c-span would be 50 just because a lot of your content is speeches by a congress. if you get a balance you would be exactly 50 are very near. said you need to have a range with "the washington times" said is 30 all the wit to "the new york times." cbs evening news when i did this dan rather was there it was close to 80 but msnbc although i did not measure for this book they would be even higher i am sure today. >>host: what about fox news? >> there is only one show with a special report. i think it was 39 it was right-of-center but not far. the average republican speech would be 15. but not as far right as the average republican like a susan collins speech some people call her not truly a conservative. >>host: what is the methodology of the matthew used to develop your scale? >>guest: that is k