joining us, michael democrat mick, the lead author of the pew study, the polarization of the americanublic. morris, professor of political science at stanford university and author of "culture war" the myth of a polarized america. let me start with you. we heard the president say, and the quote is our country is not as divided as our politics suggest." is he right? >> there is a truth to be that to be sure. the majority of americans are not caught up in this ideological, straight-line thinking. that's the view or the perspective of the minority of americans. but it is a growing minority and a very vocal minority of the american public. when you layer on top of that the kind of partisan atittupy, it creates these log jams that becomes problematic. it compared to where the other party is, and now sizable overwhelming majorities of the party are to one side of the average member of the other party. >> exactly. it's 94% of democrats are to the left of the typical republican and median. 92% of republicans to the right of the other party. to be sure democrats ought to be a little to the lef