host: eddie, let's hear from mr. shoen pfpblgt 89 -- mr. shoen. guest: i did play a small role in helping no labels launch and i certainly encourage groups like no labels and other centrist groups from -- i encourage them to do everything they can. and eddie, i also appreciate your comments. it means a great deal to me. i try to be thoughtful and i think groups like no labels certainly try to be thoughtful to come up with solutions like no budget, no pay for members of congress. the problem we have is, as eddie suggested quite rightly, it's very difficult for any centrist group given the political lineup of the country now to gain traction. we don't have people who are in the center, and i'd like to think of myself, and certainly eddie presents himself to be quite credibly and compellingly who try to come up with ideas to make positive change, not to advance a partisan or narrow selfish agenda. so i would only say what we've heard this morning so far, peter, is four people, different world views, different approaches who all say we'd like to be ab