you start with barry gold water in the 1964 election that saw him defeated badly, move on to richard mixon and what you described as politics of the division that helped put him in the white house. after nixon, after watergate, even after the first couple of years with ford in offers, the conventional wisdom was that conservatism was pretty much finished. >> that's right. every time a conservativism faces a setback, kind of the pundits in american politics declare conservatism dead. my first book ends with pundits saying if the republicans don't kick out the conservatives, there might not be a conservative party. two months ago, the same kind of pundits or their spiritual children were saying the tea party was dead, the republican establishment was back in power and they were totally shell shocked when eric cantor lost his seat to a tea party insurgent. people deeply want to believe that these kind of enlightened liberal values are on the marsh, but conservatism is so deeply insinuated within american politics i don't see it going away in our lifetime. >> the tea party has not done terribl