in i want to bring in my buddy, rick ungar, david asman, veronica. david, this is getting a little weird here, and not only the license thing, protesting outside the white house and you're an illegal and no one arrests you thing, the congresswoman is ashamed to be an american i think this, what's happening? . >> the sheriff has it absolutely right. to provide legality for illegal behavior is orwellian nonsense. this is what the soviets used to do, black is white, peace is war, et cetera, our country is based on commonsense laws, when you have laws that contradict other laws, particularly down to the base, the basic law is that act is legal, that act is illegal, you're allowed to do what's legal, if you confuse those, you confuse the rule of law in the country and i worried about a republic. neil: we're talking about a january 1st thing in california with licenses. other states have it now, veronica, i'm worried about what news we could be hearing out of the white house after labor day, timing is everything, will the president try to slow millions of