let me say a quick word about willy giest. we talked about disruption in innovation. i do not know if anyone knows this, that he is cloned. he is both the cohost for the "today" show and "morning joe." they are on at the same time basically. and the ceo of hbo, richard pleplar. [applause] >> how is everybody doing? richard, you sold the place out. we were talking about what a cool event this is. it is a lazy susan of ceo's. let's talk about hbo. as a think about the history of television and what has been called the golden age of television, i am curious where you trace it back. some people say it is "oz" in 1997. >> everybody assumes "the sopranos" was the catalyst, "sex and the city" was the catalyst, "the wire" was the catalyst. i think the tipping point was back in the early 90's with "the larry sanders show." [applause] what gary shandling did is he said to the world, you can do something with a truly original voice and you can differentiate yourself from everything else in the media. i think what gary did was he opened the door to a lot of other auteurs who saw