well, thank you, bill burrows. it was -- like the opportunity to read your book and the opportunity to talk to you, and i think i -- >> guest: well, thank you. you asked wonderful questions. it is appreciated. it's been really fun. >>> now joining us on booktv is clive priddle. when did public affairs get started. >> it's our birth day today. 17. >> host: how did it got started. >> guest: he wanted to set up an independent, nonfiction dedicated list that would be newsy, sharp, edgy, and we have continued in that tradition ever since. >> host: public affairs is the publisher of the c-span book but we wanted to talk to you about some of the upcoming fall 2014 titles that public affairs has. >> guest: well, thank you. very happy to mention a couple of them. so, the first i want to mention was a book called "city of lies." the author is a wonderful british iranian journalist, pulitzer prize-winning filmmaker, and her journey has taken her into the southern part of tehran, very mixed neighborhood, and she is really got

within 2 1/2 months of the new fiscal year we were already burrowing money, to pay bills and not just investment bills. these are bread and milk bills we are paying with that line of credit. if you look at the chart that was in the treasurer's report, it showed the average cash balances and the 2013 cash balances on a daily basis and 2014 in then projected. all of us in business, one of the things i would do is look at my cash balance. my cfo is here. he and i do this together. we have done this for 20 years. and if i had a cash balance that look like the state's right now, a business and that's it every year you are getting worse in terms of your revenue your revenues are going down, there is no bank that will give a line of credit. that is the problem we have in pennsylvania. we do not have a business plan that is working. >> the governor called pensions a crisis. do you believe that the legislature has not been able to come to terms on some pension plan? >> i am not sure where this issue is. we have a problem. if we do not do something it will become a crisis. we need to make sure