back for more now is caroline mccarthy, jack and dan schafer. i mean, this is so outrageous.the technology in place, and then they just lie about how long that light is yellow from three seconds. you can feel it, you know how long it is before it's going to turn. they change it and, boom, they see a boost in ticket revenue. are you outraged? >> i wouldn't say i'm outraged, i'm more amused. melissa: you must not drive a car. >> i don't, i live in new york city. but this is not the first city to have a massive problem either intentional or out of incompetence -- melissa: oh, i think there was competence. >> but you're seeing tickets getting overturned -- melissa: i mean, only because there was a big investigation. jack, what do you think about this? >> cameras that give tickets, it becomes like a wall street company trying to meet its quarterly numbers. melissa: right. >> just a few, you know, light lengths, and you can jack up the numbers. it's worrisome, and it stinks in chicago. melissa: yeah. chicago, it's so surprising that this happened in chicago. >> oh, yeah. melissa: a