dr. khabeer said. and that is that we are muslims. and before we're muslims, we're human beings. and as human beings, there is nothing more natural than cultural production. human beings are naturally cultural producers. and we may draw some instruction in this regard from something that the prophet said. the prophet says that the most truthful -- not the best, but the most truthful names for a human being are two. one is the one who's constantly toiling. human beings toil. they work. they occupy themselves with production. the other one is the one who is angst. and culture production in some ways is really about taking the edge off the sort of cosmic anxiousness that we feel as human beings. this is why the german philosopher once said that it is that cosmic fear, you know, where do we come from, why are we here, where are we going, he said, that is the mother of all culture. and all human beings are involved in that. in terms of the whole enterprise of producing culture, i don't think that is our problem because we're just as human as anybody else. but i think that we have a nu