prosecutor and the department of justice for 20 years, where his cases included the prosecution of richard reid and the shoe bomber. he is an author, scholar. his book "inside the criminal process" has been translated into russian. his work on securing justice for juveniles resulted in a book with the brookings institution. he has been very actively involved in boston, in civic engagement, public engagement programs. and like me, he is a c-span addict. >> go back to the beginning. what were your parents? are they still with us? >> my parents are still with us. my parents are my heroes. my father is 88. he is a refugee from nazi germany. he came to the united states in march of 1941 with his mother. his father had died on crystal night 1938. my mother is from brooklyn. she is 85. her parents were from russia. and my parents are really my heroes. they have really given all of us, for children, the sense that anything and everything in life was possible, and whatever you do, you should do it with modesty, with concern for others, and with the idea of trying to make the world a better place. my fat

both richard reid and under wear bomber, alert passengers stopped it. >> tsa administrator and former fbi agent points outs that would be bombers never went through our check points. >> we thought since september 11th have come from overseas and there hasn't been a terrorist trying to get on here in the u.s. we know that that is because of the bad guys seeing u.s. as being one of the most-secure aviation systems in the world. >> snyder calls it security theater. >> we screen for bombs, terrorists use box cutter. we screen shoes they use liquids. take away liquids they put a bomb in under wear. put in full body scanners they're going to do something else, it's a stupid game. we should stop playing. >> i want the world to know how much danger the american transportation security administration is doing. >> tsa watch dog jonathan corbitt says he put a body scanner to the test. >> if you have a metallic object it will be the same color at the background, invisible to visual and auto mated inspection. you can watch i walk through with a metal object. >> tsa says the stanner you used is an

both richard reid and under wear bomber, alert passengers stopped it. >> tsa administrator and former fbi agent points outs that would be bombers never went through our check points. >> we thought since september 11th have come from overseas and there hasn't been a terrorist trying to get on here in the u.s. we know that that is because of the bad guys seeing u.s. as being one of the most-secure aviation systems in the world. >> snyder calls it security theater. >> we screen for bombs, terrorists use box cutter. we screen shoes they use liquids. take away liquids they put a bomb in under wear. put in full body scanners they're going to do something else, it's a stupid game. we should stop playing. >> i want the world to know how much danger the american transportation security administration is doing. >> tsa watch dog jonathan corbitt says he put a body scanner to the test. >> if you have a metallic object it will be the same color at the background, invisible to visual and auto mated inspection. you can watch i walk through with a metal object. >> tsa says the stanner you used is an

you dated the shoe bomber richard reid for two years.uspected it. >> people didn't know that. i feel like it could be like the salem witch trial. spot the terrorists and tell us who they are. how can anyone do that? it is somebody that makes them feel uncomfortable? >> they take the ideology out of it. >> they say it is similar teaching community leaders or teachers to spot gang members in the schools. when it comes to criteria there is nothing we can say makes the guy feel like a terrorist. >> they wear t-shirts sometimes. they won't say anything that helps find terrorists. >> they profile with dark clothes. they think of beards and the amish. >> always using twitter. >> "using" --duck guy nasty." i have a beard. i have been married to it for years. >> i am having a getting together. just bring a half robe and strawberries. >> they call that a kamono. >> it is a robe. get your facts straight. >> b block. do edits. i was going to make a bigger point about terror venezuela is facing its biggest threat of. first, a word from our sponsor. >

like richard reid? >> i came across interestingt. people. those to me that with the new training camp. and then we went to europe. and then in the united kingdom my would meet different people. >> i have to say at that time actually their rollicking from those societies. >> he really tells me those who were in close ties with al qaeda on the day as of 9/11 sees the images of the tower coming down. describe the events of that day and a mosque they went to. and with the people that you were with? >> we don't have one. >> so what happened is that that time two nights before 9/11. but i have to bring my wife.:] so a few months later then we had 9/11. and then suddenly i realized i have been to a place. and then suddenly i was there. >> and then mae would turn on the radio. we went to the mosques and this was run by a fellow and he would say by their creator of iran we expect 50,000 people. we should all give credit to the bar life. >> quite extraordinary. here in the united states. so with that atmosphere there was the plan for the united states

both richard reid and under wear bomber, alert passengers stopped it. >> tsa administrator and former fbi agent points outs that would be bombers never went through our check points. >> we thought since september 11th have come from overseas and there hasn't been a terrorist trying to get on here in the u.s. we know that that is because of the bad guys seeing u.s. as being one of the most-secure aviation systems in the world. >> snyder calls it security theater. >> we screen for bombs, terrorists use box cutter. we screen shoes they use liquids. take away liquids they put a bomb in under wear. put in full body scanners they're going to do something else, it's a stupid game. we should stop playing. >> i want the world to know how much danger the american transportation security administration is doing. >> tsa watch dog jonathan corbitt says he put a body scanner to the test. >> if you have a metallic object it will be the same color at the background, invisible to visual and auto mated inspection. you can watch i walk through with a metal object. >> tsa says the stanner you used is an

. >> you became a fundamentalist, heavily involved, you knew richard reid, the suspected shoe bomber, what made you turn away from extremism and work for british and american intelligence? >> i was planning to travel to somalia and fight and join up with the islamic union court in 2006 in december. a couple of days. my travel was due, i had a phone call from a friend who was in somalia. warning me t not to return back to somalia because they just lost the airport to the ethiopian troops. it was such a blow to me, it was a show of my faith. it was like we had just lost the world cup in football. i then went home and googled, you know, i googled contradictions in the koran and i came across a lot of websites which obviously stated there was contradictions in the koran and having been a devoted muslim for ten years studying islam i never dared to ask questions but this time i did. i studied those contradiction and concluded that they were genuine and obviously wiped away my faith. >> and you didn't believe that killing civilians was acceptable. and you know, that raises the question for

i'm i guess i'm drawing the contrast because where both richard reid and zacarias moussaoui entered islams through a mosque and through an islamic scholar that was not preaching violent jihad. >> did you hear the conversation we had before? >> i did, yes. >> what did you think of it? >> look, i think the fact is i've read the koran three times now because of various cases i've worked on. i've worked on a number of cases down at gitmo, the 9/11 co-conspirator cases. i've had to learn what it is i'm hearing. and there is a great deal of violence that is in fact attributed to the prophet. and to his teachings. but it is in a particular context. i agree with that. and it's taken out of context by people like the leaders of isis. >> it's taken out of context, but it's still part of islam. even though it's taken out of context. >> it's part of the holy text of islam, yes. >> who are carrying that out, right? >> you can't deny it. it's black and white. >> but is it meant to be taken literally? when it says to crucify people and to take a knife to their necks, is that meant to be taken literally?

richard reid and the underwear bomber.ers that saw something going on and stopped it. >> tsa administrator pointed out those would-be bombers never went through our checkpoint. >> every plot since 9/11 has come from overseas, terrorist trying to get on a plane in the u.s., because they see the bad guys in the u.s. being one the most secure aviation system in the world. >> snyder calls it security theater. >> if we scan for bonds, they get box cutters. we screen for box cutters, they use shoes. we take away the shoes, they liquid. if we take will he could, they underwater. if we use full body scanners, they will use something else. this is a silly game and we should stop playing it. >> how much the danger the security of administration is putting us in. >> jonathan corbett said he put a body scanner to the test. >> if you have a metallic object on your side it'll be the same color as the background and thus completely invisible to visual and automated inspection. you can watch as i walk through the security line with a meta

richard reid, and the shoe bomber who tried to ignite explosives in a shoe, also traveled on the visa waiver program. perpetratorse main of the 1993 world trade center bombing again used the visa waiver program to enter the country. these attacks occurred before the advent of increased scrutiny on visa waiver countries. while we are confident that we can identify many threats today through the electronic system for travel authorization, which allalled esta, visa waiver applicants have to fill out, it is clear that we may have trouble determining if some individuals have traveled to terrorist regions. also, we continuously but that thistinuously vet information. .hat information is imperfect collecting information up front could be very helpful for us to do just that. however critical information sharing, especially with our critical toies, is combat foreign fighters bound for the united states. unfortunately, europe as a whole has been unwilling to share certain passenger data with the united states and such a gap certainly puts our citizens in the united states at risk. i want to com

richard reid the shoe bomber who tried to ignite explosive and issue also traveled on the visa waiver program. enron to use fast and was one of the main perpetrators of the 1993 world trade center bombing to get news of the visa to enter the country. these attacks occurred before the advent of increased scrutiny on the visa waiver countries and i think we are confident we can identify many threats today are the electronic system for travel authorization commonly called pasta and are hearing today which all applicants have to fill out. it is clear we may have trouble determining if some individuals have traveled to terrace regions. although cbp continuously that's all visa applicants against our terrorism holdings, that information is imperfect if we don't have a complete picture of an individual travel route collecting more information up front could be very helpful for us to do just that. he treats another pilot programs to look at the totality of data on a esta and visa application are good tools to help some of our intelligence caps make connections we would otherwise miss. however

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