t.d. jakes has slash potter house and t.d. jakes enterprises. he is great example. producer. probably a writer. a film writer i mean. they have all kinds of fingers in different pots. >> host: that's the profit side or the taxable side? >> guest: that's right. they will say don't look as me necessarily example taking money out of the coffers. i actually make most of my money from this other wing. that is sometimes true for some and it is less true for others. they, they don't really have to justify how much money they make in part because of the theological infrastructure of the movement. all they have to say is look, i did it and i can show you how to do it too. more is more and i can show you the way. >> host: somebody who spoke at president bush's, inaugural, kirby john caldwell, windsor village united methodist church. 14,000 attendance, houston, texas. >> guest: one of the big surprises of prosperity movement and why it took me so long to write this book. in order to demonstrate how widespread it is, take into account not stereotypical prosperity megachurchs which are no

so t.d. jakes will not been citing him on his next sermon. the point is that, yeah, that may be the alleged reason but the bottom line is there is an implicit censorship going on here. the cozy business relationship between one entity and the other would suggest there is no independence. a common theme. journalists must be independent. we are castigating and casting dispittsburgh on networks and countries and journalists that disallow the journalists to tell the truth. we are not embedded. this is the example of financial embedding and the inability to be independent and tell the truth as best one. can in this case, my god, can we not say, mr. goodell looks awful suspicious. wii we're skeptical. he's arrogant and insular and tone deaf. to be able to say that in colorful language is part and parcel what it means to be a journalist but we don't have that kind of independence being exhibited here. >> professor dyson, the other aspect of this is something you touched upon in an op ed that was provocative which is of course the root of this matter

bible which of course i sent him imhead i can't tellly and one book in his cell right now he has t.d. jakesiveness. no way to he used the bucket in his cell that he cleaned his clothes in and he fell and thought that he broke his arm. >> oblique and gassily situation. i think everybody would agree with that just as review, your son was diagnosed post-traumatic stress disorder. he served in iraq. he was in a fire fight. he got a head injury. la jolla v.aing ited him. you have made that quite clear to mexican authorities that he has the post-traumatic stress, correct? >> absolutely. on april 14th, i went to the v.a. andrew signed hippa clearance and i handed the state department in tee it quanah, mexico was full. tijuana ptsd attended orientation on march 20th. 10 days before his wrong turn. very vested and anxious to recover from his symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. >> just on that alone, mexican president should have released him on humanitarian grounds. every person understands that he is a coward. why did he have the guns in a vehicle? why did he tell you he had the guns in the

t.d. jakes' folks are suing him. i felt it was opportunity, jakes to say, brother, talk about this copyright infringement, let's have a conversation. because kendrick using that line was a honor. it was a positive song. it was a positive message. they heard something in jake's voice and they admired and they used it. there was the opportunity to build a bridge even though jake may have not liked the language or approach. too often we got old people that don't want to build the bridge and elders we can't find to help build it. thank you so much. yes, ma'am? [applause] >> hi, my name is brittany clay brooks. i was a dream defender at florida a&m university where we stayed in the capitol 31 days and 31 nights trying to get a special hearing for stand your ground. this can go to miss barbara because you guys are touching on it, what are things we can do as young people to get attention from prominent or national figures? we're still going to hearings. we're still he being briefed on policy issues. we're still registering

tonight at 7:00, bishop t.d. jakes will minister and officiate the ceremony. >>> thousands of slaves who died during the civil war are buried here in a local cemetery. a lot were refugees trying to get behind union lines and escape to alexandria. this weekend the city dedicated a new statute in their honor. and news 4's derrick ward talked to the descendents who now have a place to honor their families. >> reporter: it's a long way from this to this. >> i never liked the gas station. >> reporter: it wasn't necessarily the aesthetics or service it was something fran burton couldn't see, the past buried beneath the ground at south washington and church street in alexandria. >> with no idea that what was under it was a cemetery. >> reporter: nor did she know some of her ancestors were among the 1700 people buried there. since 1864 contrabands liberated from bondage at the end of their freedom were laid to rest here. >> the bur yells they received went unmarked and were too quickly forgotten. >> reporter: more than 20 year

t.d. jakes folks are suing him. i felt it was opportunity, jakes to say, brother, talk about this copyright infringement, let's have a conversation. because kendrick using that line was a honor. it was a positive song. it was a positive message. they heard something in jake's voice and they admired and they used it. there was the opportunity to build a bridge even though jake may have not liked the language or approach. too often we got old people that don't want to build the bridge and elders we can't find to help build it. thank you so much. yes, ma'am? [applause] >> hi, my name is brittany clay brooks. was a dream defender at florida a&m university where we stayed in the capitol 31 days and 31 nights trying to get a special hearing for stand your ground. this can go to miss barbara because you guys are touching on it, what are things we can do as young people to get attention from prominent or national figures? we're still going to hearings. we're still he being briefed on policy issues. we're still registering pe