>> guest: so, i wanted to see how brandon wilson was buying this debt. brandon is the former armed robber who worked for aaron and is find these deals on paper, and those deals are key to making the profit margin. so, in the course of talk can to brandon about where he hunted or searched for paper, he says las vegas. every february there's debt buyer convention and i hunt for deals. i ask him if i can tag along and she said sure. so in february 2013 i flew out to vegas, spent several day with brandon as he was on at the prowl for these deals, buckets of debt he called them so he could bring home to work at his own collection agency or he could then flip and sell to other folks. and it was interesting because when we arrived there that year, the market for debt was changing for two reasons. one was the regulators were finally starting to crack down a little bit and that was making some of the banks nervous about who was getting ahold of their debt. the other thing is that during the credit boom of the 2000s, everyone was getting a loan and now after the re

some of these individuals had discovered new things there. >> guest: solo i wanted to see how brandon wilson was buying this debt and if you remember brandon is a former armed robber who works for an end works for aaron and his finding these deals on paper. those deals are key to the profit margin so in talking to brandon about where he hunted her search for paper he says las vegas. every third word there's a big debt buyers can mention i might go out there and i can't but feel. i asked him if i could tag along and he said sure. february 2013 i flew out to vegas and spent several days with brandon. he was on the prowl for these deals. he wanted to get a feel for what they called the bucket sets that he could bring home with him to work at his own collection agency or flip and sell to other folks. it was interesting because when we arrived there that year the market for debt was changing for two reasons. one was the regulators were finally starting to crack down a little bit and that was making some of the banks nervous about who was getting ahold of their debt. the other thing is that during

so at that point he called his fixer who was a guy named brandon wilson, an unofficial partner who is a former bank robber got into this business, help them buy and sell debt but also helps them solve these sorts of problems and its brandon who then goes and tracks down the thieves who have gotten hold of this debt and retrieved it. we can talk about the crazy showdown with the guns and they get it back. but the world in which he must go to directory that debt, that's the world jimmy and habits which is this kind of gray area of legality, kind of underworld of buying and selling debt in a sketchy minute that exists in buffalo and in other places. >> host: this underworld has that hierarchy you mention. you have sort of former thugs to large extent at the bottom level getting some of this paper that is perhaps being sold and resold. you have to talk about how paper is being stolen as well and then have sort of a level up through aaron. he seems an interesting character to me. i would like you to talk about how you got to him through june and also the package, and also he wasn't a thug.

so at that point he calls the fixer named brandon wilson who is kind of his unofficial partner is a former bank robber, helps him buy and sell debt and he goes and tracks down those that have gotten a hold of the the debt and retrieved it and we can talk about how it is a crazy showdown and if they get it back but the world in which he must go to retrieve that data is a gray area of liberality kind of underworld of buying and selling that that exist in buffalo and other places. >> host: . they have these three large extent at the bottom getting some of this paper that has been sold and resold and not to talk about how paper has been stolen as well. and then you have a sort of level up through. and he's an interesting character. talk about how you got to have and also he wasn't a thug. he grew up on the good side of buffalo. he had a wealthy family of bringing. he lived in a mansion. so how did he come into the same business? >> guest: so the story of the way that i tell the told the story in the book it starts with this guy aaron siegel who grew up in a wealthy and very well-known and resp

wilson. >> in 2012romo's shirt drew the attention with a bold political statement reading "i just look illegal." and this picture we posted, brandon crawford with his young daughter, tugs at your heart strings after the game in kansas city open wednesday. we showed you a video of the touching moment yesterday. >> we will post more pictures throughout the day and go to facebook and "like," to see them off with everything you need to know, the route, transit information, all at abc.com with our coverage starting at 11 o'clock and now, when does the rain start? >> i hope the two don't go hand in hand. >> well have scattered showers until 10:00 and then it will be steady and become heavier as we head to noon. there is the possibility of moderate-to-heavy rain and some embedded thunder in the system. that is the big difference between yesterday and today and slow down even more and getting more impressive with the dynamics and the amount of energy with it. as we head to 2:00 the rain will move off to the east but scattered shower is going to be possibled but you will be out of the woods with the heaviest rain. for trick-or-treating wit

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so at that point he called his fixer who was a guy named brandon wilson who's kind of his unofficial barter in who's -- partner who's a former bank robber who's gotten into this business, helps him buy and sell debt, but also helps him solve these sorts of robs. and it's brandon who goes and tracks down the thieves that have gotten ahold of this debt and retrieves it. and we can talk about, it's a crazy showdown with guns, but they get it back. but the world he must go to to retrieve that debt, that's the world that jimmy inhabits which is kind of this gray area of legality, kind of underworld of buying and selling debts and sketchy manner that exists in buffalo and in other places. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> here's some of the latest news about the publishing industry. the washington post reports that the cia took issue with the contents of former director leon panetta's memoir "worthy fights," and that mr. panetta allowed his publisher to start editing the book before receiving final approval from the agency. book publisher simon and simon & s