i want to bring in joey jackson. the prosecutor is going to go for the death penalty.m to be amassing much more evidence. what more do they need? >> you know what? they have a lot now, carol, and the police are very motivated and they were very motivated to get this done and they did it after the seven weeks and they're very motivated, obviously, because a law enforcement officer is dead, carol, who had two children. and what they're going to do is piece everything together. remember after the law enforcement officer was killed and his colleague was injured they went and found his suv when there was a gentleman walking his dog and there was a treasure trove of information in that suv also, carol, that connected him to that that crime, including ballistic evidence. in addition to that, throughout the search they came across a journal and that journal represented his actions talking about "i took a shot, i had a shot at 11:00, i took it, he went down fast." so all of this information in addition to the information that they've gleaned once they've apprehended him will be

amish and joey jackson. welcome to both of you. >> good morning, carol. >> good morning. joey, maine has not filed for a court order just yet but it's likely to do that some time today. do you think it will be successful? >> i think they could be. it comes down balancing individual liberties versus the rights of society as a whole. now, there's a lot we don't know about this and there's been information and misinformation, but what we do know is 21 days apparently is that incubation period, this t doctor could speak to that issue. so even though she tested negatively, the issue becomes could she become positive at some later time. and if she is what danger that would pose to the public. and so it's up to a judge to determine whether her individual liberties are violated but based on the fact she's asystematic now but could be system mat nick the future a judge could say, you know what? abide by the rules, stay home mandatorily. >> doctor, kaci hickox is obviously trying to prove a point here. is she smart to the that? >> i can't advise her legally but i think she's right t

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joining us now is criminal defense attorney joey jackson. legal analyst for hln. much. let's talk about the suspect in this case. we know jesse matthew has been charged but only with abduction with intent to defeel in the case of hannah graham but now that we've remains do you think we'll see more charges filed? >> whenever in a criminal case you find the body to think and imagine her family you send your precious pride and joy off to the university of virginia, a wonderful institution and the issue then becomes how do you get justice if there is justice because she's dead. however, with the finding of the body you have what's called dna evidence. we know a lot about it. right? people watch "csi" and that's significant because what it does it provides a link i would suspect although they are skeletal remains authorities searched the body and choate c and anything in the surrounding area that could be valuable which could link a suspect and if it's jesse matthews would certainly be compelling and damning evidence whatever the dna. and trails evidence. hairs, fibers.

joining me to talk about this, joey jackson. good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> so, you know, i mean five years doesn't sound like much for killing someone. >> it's a very difficult thing, carol, and i have never worn the black robe but i certainly appear regularly before those that do and it's a difficult decision. if you listen to what she indicated when she was rendering the decision she said, listen, i'm going to do two things. number one, i'm going to ensure the sentence i impose sends the right message to the community. we don't want to send the wrong message. you remember, carol, the defense was really pushing for house arrest and community service. she said i'm not going to do that. that's the wrong message. at the same time, i don't want to be vengeful and i don't want to carry out a sentence which would do anything else but impose some measure of mercy. so judges have to balance the equities. and to the extent as you explained it, it's culpable homicide and that amounts to gross negligence, unintentional so she h

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joining me now are joey jackson and brian todd. brian, i'd like to start with you.st this 2005 case, there's yet another case that had a conviction but is now being reopened as officials try to discover if jesse matthew had anything to do with that. walk us through that. >> that's right, carol. that's the case of alexis murphy. she was a 17-year-old who went missing in august of 2013. her body was never found, but her abandoned car was found in charlottesville. now officials here tell myself and our colleague jean casarez that there is dna testing, foreign dna testing, from her car that's being done at the fbi lab in quantico, virginia. testing to determine whether that dna matches jesse matthew's dna. so even though a body was never found and there is a conviction, a gentleman named randy taylor was convicted in that case of murdering alexis murphy, they are testing this car to see if there are any sign of jesse matthew's dna in that car. >> joey, it seems like that would be a difficult task for police. >> carol, there's a couple things. obviously family of that pa

. >> ted rowlands covering the story, also with us analyst joey jackson. were in the courtroom. government attorneys say they want secrecy during what should be a routine hearing? >> no, it's kind of a mystery, don. in a filing they said it was a third party privacy concern and then during the hearing the judge actually said that the concern had to do with minors. but that was it. that's all we heard about. and as you mentioned, kahn's defense team adamantly objected for that part of the hearing to be done in secret. they wanted the media and the public to be able to see what happened. so basically the judge ordered the frogs fiprosecution to file rebuttal and we'll find out in 11 days whether in this be will in the open or out doors. >> his attorney says the teenager may hold radical view but was hasn't broken any laws and he says, isis doesn't pose a threat, just beheaded a few people. your take? >> i know thomas dirken, i tried a federal case, he's a very good lawyer. having said that, there's a lot that we don't know. the reality is, the suggestion tha

i want to bring in legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson and cedric alexander the national organization of black law enforcement executives. dr. alexander, let me begin with you, if i could. there is this prevailing thought, it seems, especially among the black community who may be fearful of police, and probably for good reason, certainly the medias has not helped out in terms of what they've been seeing a lot of lately, that they can say no to a police officer when a police officer asks for some kind of compliance, show me i.d. get out of the vehicle, get on the sidewalk. can you clear it up what is all of our responsibility no matter what when a police officer asks us to do something. >> i don't know if i can clear it up for you, but i can hopefully provide some insight so we can all start thinking about this. it is clear and evident over the last couple of months, post-the michael brown shooting, in particular, we've seen a number of incidents of police and community interactions that have not been of what we would prefer to see and certainly have created some

poppy harlow, joey jackson and midwin, thank you. i appreciate it.e. >>> this just in to cnn, we are seeing huge explosions and smoke in the town of kobani, that's near the the border with turkey. the coalition carried out more air strikes. a kurdish fighter said six of his fighters have been killed in a battle with isis militants. at least ten isis fighters are also dead. >>> as you well know, isis is trying to recruit americans including american school girls. denver officials sayly teenage girls played hookie from school, caught a flight to germany carrying $2,000 in cash. they allegedly hoped to go to syria and join up with isis. cnn's pamela brown tells us what's happened next. three high school girls from denver are the the latest american teenagers drawn from by the radical world of islamic extremism. only 15 and 16 years old, two of them sisters of somali descent, allegedly aspiring to join the the fight in syria. according to law enforcement sources, the teens boarded a flight in denver over the weekend and made it to frankfurt, germany, whe

mike brooks and also joey jackson. so welcome to all of you. a lot to get through.irst, just the facts. susan candiotti, let me begin with you. four people in the car. tell me who is in the car. you hear the woman, who we can't see on the phone with 911, give me more of the back story. >> this happened on september 24th, hammond, indiana, which is near chicago. four people in cars, you said. the mother, 7-year-old daughter, 14-year-old son, the son is the one who was rolling the video from the backseat. and in the passenger side is a male adult. it all started because of a seat belt. they weren't wearing their seat belts. and in the end, by the way, all that happened at the tail end of all of this is that the woman who was driving got ticketed for not wearing a seat belt and some other thing involving a license plate, minor. and he gets cited for not wearing a seat belt and additionally, i think it was failure to aid an officer because they wanted him to get out of the car. and resisting law enforcement. and that's how, in the end, all of this wound up. >> but along

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turning now to cnn legal analyst paul callan and joey jackson. paul first, looking at this, you still, at the end of the day, have two very differing accounts here. you have evidence that puts both of them in the car, right? the gun going off there. you've got explosive -- gunshot residue as well as michael brown's blood on the police officer's uniform. so you know he was in there somehow. the only question is, was he dragged in, or did he take a lunge at the officer? do these new details, in your view, move the dial in the -- in either direction towards officer wilson's account or other witnesses' account? >> i have to say, it moves the dial slightly toward wilson's account. and i say that because there are no surprises here. we both men -- all of the witnesses indicated there was a struggle. the gun went off. so it's not surprising that there would be blood on the gun. there's not surprising that there would be gun on wilson -- there be blood on wilson and blood on mr. brown as well. but here's what's different. there are scratches on the offic

. >> joining me now is midwin charles and joey jackson. le are saying that this physical evidence of blood in the vehicle backs up officer wilson's story. sure. it might. but it also might not. >> here's the point, ashleigh. it's critical and relevant information because we want to know what happened and anybody evaluating this, the grand jury wants to know all of the facts. the critical inquiry is not only in the car but who was the aggressor and who was not the aggressor. is their dna on the gun which would be suggestive of grabbing the gun. >> and notwithstanding that, what is the next occurrence? was, at the time the shot was fired, that resulted in the death of michael brown, was that officer in imminent fear of his life, number one? did he act reasonably, number two? and number three, was the force that was used proportionate to the threat, if any, proposed at the time? those are the questions that are going to lead either to an indictment or not. >> midwin, that's critical. when you look at whether someone is in fear for their lives,

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so joining me now, joey jackson and also here mike o'mara. let's just begin with you, joey. my first question is why? why are we hearing about these leaks from this police officer from the first time in "the new york times"? are they preparing the public for something major like a nonindictment? >> it's a fabulous question and one i can't answer. why? because you and i both know about grand juries. the integrity of proceedings. they are secretive and that way for a reason to present the evidence and present the information to that panel. remember, there are 12 people on that panel and standard is low. probable cause to believe that a crime was committed and that darren wilson committed it. why this information is being released to us is the open question. >> why, same question to you. >> i keep saying we should not do this piecemeal because it allows speculation and emotions to get higher. this came from the fbi investigation and not from the grand jury. i would be happy the grand jury is doing it as quietly as they should be. once again someone on officer wilson's behalf is

joining me is joey jackson, and cnn legal analyst sunny hostin. welcome to both of you.oey, what's going to happen at the hearing today. >> it depends whether he opens his mouth because in the event he doesn't, he'll be held in contempt of court again and taken out but at some point in time, carol, we suspect that he will speak and if he doesn't speak there's other people to attest to his competence. that's what it's about, are you competente enand understand the charges. today is arraignment, you're informed of the charges and the judge sets the bail conditions and the beat goes on to discovery, attorneys get the police reports, the information, the attorneys will make motions to suppress confessions and it will lead to trial eventually. >> this guy was so talkative, sunny, to police, and then he just totally shut -- was it because it was a female judge overseeing the proceedings? >> what we're hearing interestingly enough that he was upset that all the media was there, and that there were journalists there, and that the arraignment wasn't taking place or the hearing wa

joey jackson joining me on this. here's the deal, joey.ird to be hearing rumors of his demise. but at the same time, is it possible that this might be one of those things to try to pave the road for the kind of news that many on those road -- they don't want to hear, no indictment? >> it could be. but there's a grand jury that's 'that's impanelled. they're evaluating two things, whether there's reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed and that darren wilson committed it. we also know of those 12, we need nine to meet that standard. it has been a bit fishy because information has been leaking out of that grand jury. and we know these proceedings generally are very secretive because you want to protect the integrity of it. but i think the chief is one figure here and certainly he was the face of this incident. but i think that it's really a number of other people within the department -- everyone needs to be looked at and everyone certainly needs to be evaluated. we also know that the federal government is conducting an investigatio

i'm joined by cnn analyst mark o'mara and joey jackson in atlanta and sedrick alexander, the president of the national organization of black law enforcement. he's also a psychologist. so a lot of smarts on this panel. when you see protests who say it's not about an armed teenager, this is a lie. they don't believe the police story. what is the reality of creating a forensic lie in a police situation? we're talking about a lot of different apartments, a lot of different responders. how easy might that actually be? >> it's absolutely going to be quite difficult. the idea of 20, 30 years ago where a cop has a gun in his pocket and throws it on the ground, those days are long gone. it's going to be forensic testing done on the gun. they will probably find the casings, may find a bullet or two near the officer. i understand that their frustration is not specific to the facts of that case. it's a frustration that's permeating everything that we look at with every police and black intersection but i think we're going to find out that that kid, unfortunately, shot at the officer and it was a g

lauren green is a medical ethicist at ny,'s lanagain to medical center and joey jackson and peter goleser director forever the ntsb, welcome. >> thank you, carol. good morning. >> good morning. >> i'm glad you're all here. peter, the ap obtained photos of the form that duncan filled out before he left the country, the form directly asks "have you taken care of an ebola patient or come into contact with bodily fluids of ebola patient in the last 21 days?" duncan checked no to that question and other questions. now we know that's not true because he helped care for his pregnant landlord's daughter who died of ebola. so peter, duncan lied. what could happen to him? >> i think the president of liberia made it very clear that you can have these kinds of rules, but if they're not enforced, they lose power very quickly, and it's up to each of the countries that are heavily infected to really enforce these rules and to show that they're willing to enforce them, and you know, she did the right thing. i think mr. duncan will face, you know, the prosecutors when he recovers, and hopefully he will,

. >>> legal analyst joey jackson joining me now. , now that hannah graham's remains have been found, where does this lead the investigation? where to now? >> good morning, alison. the finding of the body is an unsignificant development, as unfortunate as it is. i'll tell you why. what happens, alison, to the extent you have a body there's other evidence and participation that could be cleaned from that. like what? like hair analysis, like fibers, like dna, like blood. something that could potentially link jesse matthew, and as we know, based upon forensic science when you have that link, it's significant, so where you so, the potential upgrading of charges. we know he's facing the charge of about suction with intent to defile. which is essentially a sex abuse charge, abducting someone for purposes of leading to things of a sexual variety. i'll just say it that way. now that you have a body, we're talking about murder. and it becomes a murder investigation. i would expect in due time and in short order, the charges will be upgraded if

supkowitz, joey jackson, thanks so much for the debate. let's go to michaela for more. >>> rebel leaders say more than half of kobani is now under the control of isis. hundreds of kurdish fight verse been sent to defend the town, u.s.-led air strikes have not been able to drive isis militants out. complete control of kobani would give the terror group a critical strategic corridor along the turkish border. >> a delegation of top israeli officials will visit the white house to talk diplomacy, it comes during deepening tensions between washington and jerusalem. the obama administration is trying to cool things down following an anonymous comment from a top u.s. official, mocking prime minister benjamin netenyahu, we're live in washington following this. >> president obama and israeli prime minister netenyahu never really liked each other. they aren't trying to hide it any more. beneath all the name-calling lies some pretty serious tensions on major issues. the long-simmering feud between the u.s. and israel is getting ugly. one obama adminis