you get dj kool herc. >> it's a national landmark now, is it? >> no, it's not. we're working on it.cause i didn't start it with four guys in a club. i started it in a residential building. at the time it wasn't the building. we had a watchful eye over the recreation room. she was watching for any disturbance, and it never happened. that's how it survived. good music sells itself. good drugs sell itself. good anything sells itself. and this was something good. >> was there a moment when you realized, whoa, this is big. this is going to spread way beyond my neighborhood? >> never. i saw it spreading, you know, the dmc fellas, when i see that, the commercial, i knew it was going. it was going. it done took a big lift. let's say i don't have money and all that. i'm rich in other ways, but "time" magazine said, you got louie armstrong for jazz, you got elvis presley for rock'n'roll. i could be between him and chuck berry. but for hip-hop, i got that. >> feel good? >> very good. >> historically, from the last third of the 19th century into about 1920, the second language spoken in the bro