mr. ogrean? >> i think mr. daly answered the question pretty well for our sport. there's a great deal where we rely on the national hockey league to be the leader. a lot of what they do is of benefit to us in a trickle-down fashion. as i mentioned in my opening testimony, we do have a safety and protective equipment committee of 40 years standing. they do look at a variety of issues. the face mask, for example, is something that is mandatory. in youth hockey. it is not in the national hockey league. though, the shields for incoming players are now a standard. >> i'm going to cut you off just because of time. >> football helmets were designed to prevent against skull fractures. they do a fabulous job of that. they were not designed to protect against concussion. so that sort of technology or design, i know that the helmet manufacturers are working on it. we're not there yet. the league is doing what it can to inspire that, especially with our partnership with ge and underarmour to get new ideas around that. the other thing we do is we do regular helmet testing in c

mr. ogrean? >> i think mr. daly answered the question pretty well for our sport. there's a great deal where we rely on the national hockey league to be the leader. a lot of what they do is of benefit to us in a trickle-down fashion. as i mentioned in my opening testimony, we do have a safety and protective equipment committee of 40 years standing. they do look at a variety of issues. the face mask, for example, is something that is mandatory. in youth hockey. it is not in the national hockey league. though, the shields for incoming players are now a standard. >> i'm going to cut you off just because of time. >> football helmets were designed to prevent against skull fractures. they do a fabulous job of that. they were not designed to protect against concussion. so that sort of technology or design, i know that the helmet manufacturers are working on it. we're not there yet. the league is doing what it can to inspire that, especially with our partnership with ge and underarmour to get new ideas around that. the other thing we do is we do regular helmet testing in c

mr. ogrean, have you seen a demonstrable reduction in concussion instances at usa hockey after implementing new techniques? >> we do not have the same statistical data that i think usa football has invested in. in fact, we're talking to datalist, the same company, to do that sort of thing. we have -- any concussions are too many concussions. what we have focused on is research, education, and rules enforcement. the statement was made in someone's opening remarks regarding the culture of certain sports, and obviously we know that a lot of sports at the youth level suffer from a misplaced, you know, macho attitude. a lot of coaches think they are coaching at the professional level and they are not. so changing that culture is very, very important. we've been very, very strict about return to play rules. as scott used a phrase earlier this morning that i appreciate very much, and we adopt the same thing. and i think when you're talking about a grassroots sport, in our case, we've got 350,000 youth players and 2500 programs and that equates to about 25,000 teams. one of our big challenges is qu

mr. ogrean? >> i think mr. daly answered the question pretty well for our sport. there's a great deal where we rely on the national hockey league to be the leader. a lot of what they do is of benefit to us in a trickle-down fashion. as i mentioned in my opening testimony, we do have a safety and protective equipment committee of 40 years standing. they do look at a variety of issues. the face mask, for example, is something that is mandatory. in youth hockey. it is not in the national hockey league. though, the shields for incoming players are now a standard. >> i'm going to cut you off just because of time. >> football helmets were designed to prevent against skull fractures. they do a fabulous job of that. they were not designed to protect against concussion. so that sort of technology or design, i know that the helmet manufacturers are working on it. we're not there yet. the league is doing what it can to inspire that, especially with our partnership with ge and underarmour to get new ideas around that. the other thing we do is we do regular helmet testing in c

mr. william daley iii. next to him, david ogrean. and then we have mr. jeff miller, player health and safety policy, national football league. thank you very much for being here. and then scott hallenbeck, executive director usa football. and then a face of a brain injury, multiple concussions within soccer, brianna scurry, former professional goalkeeper, u.s. women's national soccer team. in the next panel, we'll have ian, the other face of high school level concussions. with that, mr. daily, you are now recognized for your five minutes. >> i'd like to thank you for inviting me to testify regarding the proactive steps to keep hockey players safe. it's the only professional sport with no out of bounds, hockey is a physical game. at the nhl level, our players want to be physical and our fans want to be physical. but importantly all constituent groups associated with the group also want it to be safe. this objective necessarily includes promoting safe and responsible play in our game and the national hockey league working together with the national hockey