i write a lot of norah nephron and it's terrible because she was a great writer and i read her stuff and then go back to my computer. >> rose: when you read a good writer you say i can't do this. >> yes. it's really discouraging. when you're writing a book you don't want to read any other book. but i, so i try to inspire myself in different ways. >> rose: you said something interesting to me talking about improv and seeing it at four years ago. what happened after that? did you then say i know what i want to do. >> i came from a very blue collar family. i like to kind of have fun and get attention. and i tucked it away as a kid in school, learning and being a suburban kid. i never acted when i was young, i never did some school plays and i never reached out a little bit. when i got to college i joined an improv group and started understanding this idea of ensemble and getting to the show on time and all of that kind of fun stuff. but it's a very slow gradual -- >> rose: you weren't thinking about making that your life. >> no. both of my parents were public school teachers and i liked