as you know it has been a team process here at pim co. i and my colleagues have been involved in forming investment teams which are at work. we have been involved with our investment committee and cyclical forums which we talked about for 10 to 20 years. no big changes in terms of building blocks of total return. we are confident we are going to continue to build upon the track record of success that we have had in total return and continue to look for ways to enhance it. >> i didn't mean to harp on the topic of outflows but i want to press you further here. you said you are managing around redemptions but had really big investors pull out or cut back. the arkansas teacher retirement system cutting ties. have you heard of any other potentially big investors who are going to do the same? >> no. as we stated in our public release a bit ago the most intense redemption activity was in the first couple of days of the announcement and we saw a subsequent falloff. with that activity was absolutely no problem to reposition the fund for our desire

lange, the co-director of the hiv netherlands research collaborator, science director at the amsterdam institute and former president of the international aids society. jacqueline van tongeren, pim de kuijer, who is at aids fund now, martine de schutter, lucy van mens, who was at the female health company, and glenn thomgs of the world health organization. beginning of the conference which was somber and serious and full of a lot of shock and some pain. it also reminded all of us something really important about our community and the response to hiv, and that is the community. it's a community of scientists, of activists, advocates, of patients, politicians, many times embodied in the same person. so just to remember these individuals, i'd like to quote a friend of mine who worked very closely with joep and jacqueline, dr. kate hankins as a reminder of who they were and what this means for our community. and also, you know, frankly to recognize the act of violence that occurred that took them. these are kate's words. they were a tribute she just gave a few days ago. about joep and jacqueline in particular. as she said, it is incomprehensible that people who worked so hard to sav