this is held in an old exchange bill binney 1800s. this is their banquet hall and about 1000 people attended this. it's $1000 a ticket. again, five nonfiction finals but we talk to all of them tonight, for different award categories. poetry, young adults, fiction and nonfiction. and finally to literary achievement awards are being given out. >> you're watching booktv's coverage of the 65th annual national book award on c-span2. >> ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats as we begin the medal ceremony. ladies and gentlemen, daniel handler. ♪ ♪ >> good evening, fellow literary nerds. my name is daniel handler no to the world as lemony snicket. welcome to national book awards. [applause] >> welcome to national book awards, some random day in november, the 19th i think, thanksgiving is coming up and haven't had anything for it and why do i always leave things to the last minute, what's wrong with me? yes, while the rest of the world marches through november like james patterson for the best sellers list, we gather here for the night