here to help meous claudia, and jewely and sherri? >> it is a an election year.eil: let me write that down. >> we have equal pay act, it is against the law to discriminate against women. they make it sound like that. well, it is the law, you know president could set a good example. we know that the obama white house does not pay women the same as men. i'm not saying it does not happen, i do think that women hit a glass ceiling they go out and start businesses, so guess what women create,ed own more businesses in fortune 500. you will have -- >> that transcends whole gender thing. you are a small the business owner it is about providing opportunity to benefit men and women. >> we don't need workers, men women paid equally? >> absolutely it is paided on the job, we do not have any women operating a press right now, but when i was working we did she was fabulous, and got paid based on merit not a government intervention to how we should pay people. i think women deserve to be based on merit not a government regulation. neil: how did this get mixed up in the debate.