is that really when we are ohm pathic with the characters in a book, it stimulates our thinking about our own lives and others' lives and that's the case whether the issues are ones that are really -- are ones that are relevanttous personally or -- to us personally or you may find that something isn't resonant but for us individually but when we're within a group, there may be somebody else for whom that experience is powerful. and for us to be able to hear and exchange ideas with that person that expands our own understanding of the world around us. so i think it's -- it's a unique experience and when you don't participate, and just simply read alone you lack that kind of social dimension and i've come to believe that that's really important. >> so in a way really the book club is a kind of crew of social interaction and community building. >> i think so. yeah. >> and so the library essentially provides the scaffolding for a book club. so do you literally go into the book clubs themselves and facilitate the conversations or do you give suggestions for it? or how does the architecture